Shoot out with Chelene Nightingale

[boxbro]

Alerting us to the fact that a politician is a whacko is unnecessary and redundant.

Except that some of them are actually somewhat intelligent.
She thinks our country could become communist in 4 years, is worried about RFID chips being in the health bill and forced upon us, equates that with "666", and talks about prison camps already being built.
She's a full blown whack job.

[bwiese]

I would encourage those gunnies who for whatever reason don't want to vote for Brown to instead vote for Nightengale.

[yellowfin]

She thinks our country could become communist in 4 years,

Considering the amount of money confiscated from people and given to others, and recent government takeovers of companies and micromanagement of industries, that's not at all farfetched.

is worried about RFID chips being in the health bill and forced upon us,

Exactly what stops them from that, and given the over 2000 page "Healthcare" bill has been fully read by NOBODY and can almost be made to say whatever someone wants it to say, what's to say they're not?

equates that with "666"

Probably costs about $600-700 a person, so who knows, it might cost $666, though I agree it sounds a little kooky

, and talks about prison camps already being built.

We already have an alarmingly high number of people in prison. How's that different from now?

[Barabas]

We already have an alarmingly high number of people in prison. How's that different from now?

I sent an email to her campaign manager after that video came out about her believing in prison camps being built by FEMA. The web site that was referred to indicated that both Mather Field and McClellan had camps under construction. I offered to meet someone from her campaign at either or both locations to go on a driving tour to prove the source wrong with our own eyes.

I never got a response.

There are no FEMA prison camps being built at either of two locations in the greater Sacramento area her source gave. What other silly nonsense is her campaign going to perpetuate without verifying?

[Rossi357]

Did she attend Beck University?

[boxbro]

Considering the amount of money confiscated from people and given to others, and recent government takeovers of companies and micromanagement of industries, that's not at all farfetched.

It's not just far fetched, it's insane.
Our form of government isn't going to be changing anytime soon.
If it does change, I would guess it would be by revolution and I'm pretty sure that wouldn't lead to communism.

Exactly what stops them from that, and given the over 2000 page "Healthcare" bill has been fully read by NOBODY and can almost be made to say whatever someone wants it to say, what's to say they're not?

To think that the people would ever stand for it, no matter what it says in that stupid bill, is just crazy.
There is no way that they are going to be forcing RFID chips on us, sorry but I just can't buy into that.

Probably costs about $600-700 a person, so who knows, it might cost $666, though I agree it sounds a little kooky

Definitely

We already have an alarmingly high number of people in prison. How's that different from now?

That's entirely different from what she was talking about.
She was claiming some sort of connection with the RFID chips in the health bill to these mysterious prison camps.
Watch the first few minutes of this:

[yellowfin]

To think that the people would ever stand for it, no matter what it says in that stupid bill, is just crazy.
There is no way that they are going to be forcing RFID chips on us, sorry but I just can't buy into that.

There's a lot of things you'd think people would never stand for. How about the current tax rates? Add up federal income, FICA/SS-Medicare/etc., state income, and state sales and you're looking at no less than 50% taxation on average income earners. How and why do we stand for that? Because we have little means to stand up to it.

Now, take the current status of health insurance. Pretty much you've gotta live within the parameters set by insurance companies and hospital systems, who can be instructed and regulated and thus threatened and extorted by the federal government at will with impunity. If the top of the chain REALLY wants something, they can't really be told no. Of course NOW you can switch health insurance companies MAYBE and IF you can afford it and a feasible alternative is available for your area. Such might not always be the case, and remember they have to conform to federal guidelines, mandates, etc. which again can change pretty much at any time.

[boxbro]

There's a lot of things you'd think people would never stand for. How about the current tax rates? Add up federal income, FICA/SS-Medicare/etc., state income, and state sales and you're looking at no less than 50% taxation on average income earners. How and why do we stand for that? Because we have little means to stand up to it.

Taxation is out of control for sure, and so is our government.
I still don't believe people would let the government insert RFID chips into them and their children en mass.
It's about as crazy as thinking that the people would allow bar codes to be tattooed on them.
Besides that, I don't believe the government would even try such an insane thing.
I think the people have learned a lot from World War II and aren't going to just line up for the government.

Now, take the current status of health insurance. Pretty much you've gotta live within the parameters set by insurance companies and hospital systems, who can be instructed and regulated and thus threatened and extorted by the federal government at will with impunity. If the top of the chain REALLY wants something, they can't really be told no. Of course NOW you can switch health insurance companies MAYBE and IF you can afford it and a feasible alternative is available for your area. Such might not always be the case, and remember they have to conform to federal guidelines, mandates, etc. which again can change pretty much at any time.

I'm not going to argue that the government is not out of control.
I just don't see them going "666" on us anytime in the near future.

[OleCuss]

I don't know of any plans to implant RFID chips en masse - and I don't anticipate it happening anytime within the next 5-6 years.

But don't bet too much against it. It would be considered a way to ensure that you had a full electronic medical history with you wherever you went and it could literally be lifesaving. It would potentially save money as well.

Understand that right now your primary care provider is being encouraged/forced to go to an electronic medical record even if their paper charts have served them well for decades. Those paper charts do not suit the government and the government is determined to get rid of them.

So seriously, while I don't know of any current plans to give everyone an RFID chip, don't count them out down the road. They will want them (or something quite similar) and they will get them if they control the healthcare system.

Frankly, from a medical point of view it would be wonderful if everyone had an implant which could not be tampered with and which could be quickly read by medical professionals. The patient could then maintain their own medical record, access the appropriate parts when needed, medications could be tracked, etc.

The level of intrusiveness which would be medically helpful would be intensive. Put that together with the coercive and propaganda powers of the government, remember that there are already people who have chipped themselves, understand that a lot of cards already are RFID'ed - and it is not safe to bet against widespread chipping.

And I still think Chelene is a lousy candidate.

[boxbro]

And I still think Chelene is a lousy candidate.

She does have a nice grill like Baba Booey though.
Perhaps she has a future with Crest as a tooth model.

[kcbrown]

I sent an email to her campaign manager after that video came out about her believing in prison camps being built by FEMA. The web site that was referred to indicated that both Mather Field and McClellan had camps under construction. I offered to meet someone from her campaign at either or both locations to go on a driving tour to prove the source wrong with our own eyes.

I never got a response.

There are no FEMA prison camps being built at either of two locations in the greater Sacramento area her source gave. What other silly nonsense is her campaign going to perpetuate without verifying?

But that's because they're building the camps to look like housing developments!

[Barabas]

I quite prefer the camps disguised as water treatment plants.

http://www.swanfungus.com/2010/03/exploring-californias-indigenous-internmentconcentration-camps.html

[Meplat]

So are Brown and Whitman. But that didn't stop either of them from politicing.

Chelene is a whacko.
Sorry had say it.

[Meplat]

Meg doesn't give a rat's *** about courting what she considers the gun nut vote.

Wow! i missed that one!! My kid tried to play that game here and it was "see Ya" Kestryl and his no mercy policy! LOL Wonder what Meg would do in this situation LMAO

[Meplat]

Funny that's what was said about Sara Palin V Biden and now we have two shiny new SCOTUS Marxists!

Just keep letting the MSM pick their pretties for you.

I'm all for supporting third-party candidates, voting your conscience, not doing the "lesser of two evils" thing and all that, but one has to prove themselves at least mildly capable of dispatching the duties of office before they'll get my support. Sorry Chelene, but you ain't got it.