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  • #46
    rabagley
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2008
    • 7180

    Rather than arming everyone, why not disarm everyone, and ban guns?
    "Be not afraid of any man,
    No matter what his size.
    When in danger, call on me.
    And I will equalize!"

    -- Colonel Colt (on his revolvers)
    "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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    • #47
      pnkssbtz
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 3555

      In my psych class, over half the class is female. The teacher asked the class how many people in the class fear being attacked at least once a day.


      Almost every female raised their hand.




      That is pretty damn telling and something the anti's need to listen to. Their attempts to disarm the populace only hurt those the victims who otherwise couldn't defend themselves.

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      • #48
        Code7inOaktown
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 632

        Originally posted by J.D.Allen
        That dumb***** reporter apparently missed the fact that the lady's friend had been "overpowered" by an unarmed attacker.
        I think you have a valid point, but the interviewer's questions is still valid. The interviewer shouldn't just ask questions that re-enforce the point of view of the person being interviewed? If an anti reads this, they're going to think in their mind "let's get rid of all guns." Just like when you talk to an anti and they say the same thing. By asking what the readers who are anti are thinking, she can respond to it and hopefully help them understand why it doesn't work. If the interview were a one-way street with her pitching softballs and just generally agreeing, you're not getting the full story and most people will just dismiss it as PR snow job.

        And on a side note, I really liked some of the linked stories in Marie Clarie such as this one:



        I find that a disproportionate amount of women I know are antis. I think it's mostly because they haven't been exposed to firearms properly or were exposed by guys were complete idiots. These are the people we need to reach and convince to get them to come over to our side if we want to keep the momentum up. Maybe we should all take the opportunity here to forward this interview to two or three women we know who would not be offended getting such a thing forwarded to them.

        My sister-in-law recently told me about a scary incident in an gas station where it seemed like some low life went to his car and may have retrieved a weapon to shoot another patron. She was sort of involved because the low life had tried to get into her car while she was gassing up and the patron told her about it. The low life then turned on the patron for being a "snitch."
        Everyone in the station was scared crapless because they didn't know what was going to happen. Luckily, the patron jumped in his car and sped off. The lowlife tried to pursue. She said she didn't know what happened after that. I said, "Man, makes you wish you were armed." She instead said: "Not me."

        I didn't want to get into it with my sister-in-law, but thinking about it later, I think she's like a lot of people who just wishes she wasn't there during the incident. Well, I think most people (even armed ones) would also wish that too, but the reality is she was there and no amount of wishing would make her not there. And if it went sideways, being armed and being able to save your own life so you can see your family again is a better option than to sit there and either get killed or watch the low life go on a shooting rampage.

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        • #49
          yellowfin
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2007
          • 8371

          Denial and deferral as a psychological defense mechanism is a very serious problem. It makes my work hard and it gets people in all kinds of trouble up to and including getting killed.
          "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
          Originally posted by indiandave
          In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
          Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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          • #50
            joedogboy
            Banned
            • May 2010
            • 1444

            Originally posted by Code7inOaktown

            My sister-in-law recently told me about a scary incident in an gas station where it seemed like some low life went to his car and may have retrieved a weapon to shoot another patron. She was sort of involved because the low life had tried to get into her car while she was gassing up and the patron told her about it. The low life then turned on the patron for being a "snitch."
            Everyone in the station was scared crapless because they didn't know what was going to happen. Luckily, the patron jumped in his car and sped off. The lowlife tried to pursue. She said she didn't know what happened after that. I said, "Man, makes you wish you were armed." She instead said: "Not me."

            I didn't want to get into it with my sister-in-law, but thinking about it later, I think she's like a lot of people who just wishes she wasn't there during the incident. Well, I think most people (even armed ones) would also wish that too, but the reality is she was there and no amount of wishing would make her not there. And if it went sideways, being armed and being able to save your own life so you can see your family again is a better option than to sit there and either get killed or watch the low life go on a shooting rampage.
            If you are powerless, you are also free from responsibility. Some people fear responsibility more than anything else.

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            • #51
              shooter777
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 649

              We should all make our GFs and wives read this. When they see the 2A issue getting coverage in magazines and articles like this, it adds to the legitimacy of our RKBA. I am so sick of the defeatist attitudes of a lot of the people that live in this state, especially SF Bay/LA. They hope and pray that nothing bad ever happens to them without making any preparations for the times when things get ugly. Where I live I am basically surrounded by scumbags, gangbangers, pedophiles and miscreants, yet when I speak passionately about 2A or RKBA I get that little smirk from people basically implying that I've flown over the cookoo's nest.
              If articles like these get more females into self defense, I am all for it.

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              • #52
                Cowboy T
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2010
                • 5706

                Also applies to all Black Americans, too, for similar reasons

                Every last black person should read that too, substituting "woman" for "black person" and "rapist" for "white supremacist". My Dad is a firm believer in the RKBA, and more black people should be, but as we know, they're not. What a way to get the Democrats' attention--getting a very large part of their base, black people, on the side of the 2A! How would Maxine Waters like *them* apples?
                "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
                ----------------------------------------------------
                To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.

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                • #53
                  Mulay El Raisuli
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3613

                  Originally posted by joedogboy
                  If you are powerless, you are also free from responsibility. Some people fear responsibility more than anything else.

                  Interesting thought!


                  Originally posted by Wherryj
                  Ok, I'll bite. What's a gat?

                  Is it anything like a Yute?

                  A gat is da heat carried by miscreant yutes.


                  The Raisuli
                  "Ignorance is a steep hill with perilous rocks at the bottom"

                  WTB: 9mm cylinder for Taurus Mod. 85

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                  • #54
                    yellowfin
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 8371

                    Originally posted by joedogboy
                    If you are powerless, you are also free from responsibility. Some people fear responsibility more than anything else.
                    Or it's out of sight, out of mind. If they have to take responsibility for something, it worries them, and to them the worrying all the time is more of a certain problem in their estimation than the actual problem itself. They feel better simply wishing their problems away because that's more comfortable. It's childish and spoiled of course, and it really sucks that they care so little about themselves and their families than to do differently, but they feel their lives are too complicated already and responsibility is an inconvenience, and nothing is worse to them than inconvenience.
                    "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                    Originally posted by indiandave
                    In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                    Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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                    • #55
                      Nick Justice
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 1985

                      Quigley has been writing self defense books for years. I met her once at a book signing. She is very petite, about 5'0", around 98 lbs, and a very nice woman. If anyone should have a gun, it's her!
                      It doesn't matter how scary, ugly, uncomfortable, or inconvenient self defense can be. Like it or not, you will never, ever be relieved of your duty and responsibility to defend your life, your family, your country and your freedom.

                      How much ammo do I need? Enough to last me the rest of my life, and then lot more for later.

                      The government does not come knocking at your door. It comes knocking down your door.

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                      • #56
                        wutzu
                        Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 325

                        Originally posted by Code7inOaktown
                        ...

                        And on a side note, I really liked some of the linked stories in Marie Clarie such as this one:



                        I find that a disproportionate amount of women I know are antis. I think it's mostly because they haven't been exposed to firearms properly or were exposed by guys were complete idiots. These are the people we need to reach and convince to get them to come over to our side if we want to keep the momentum up. Maybe we should all take the opportunity here to forward this interview to two or three women we know who would not be offended getting such a thing forwarded to them.

                        My sister-in-law recently told me about a scary incident in an gas station where it seemed like some low life went to his car and may have retrieved a weapon to shoot another patron. She was sort of involved because the low life had tried to get into her car while she was gassing up and the patron told her about it. The low life then turned on the patron for being a "snitch."
                        Everyone in the station was scared crapless because they didn't know what was going to happen. Luckily, the patron jumped in his car and sped off. The lowlife tried to pursue. She said she didn't know what happened after that. I said, "Man, makes you wish you were armed." She instead said: "Not me."

                        I didn't want to get into it with my sister-in-law, but thinking about it later, I think she's like a lot of people who just wishes she wasn't there during the incident. Well, I think most people (even armed ones) would also wish that too, but the reality is she was there and no amount of wishing would make her not there. And if it went sideways, being armed and being able to save your own life so you can see your family again is a better option than to sit there and either get killed or watch the low life go on a shooting rampage.
                        This was an interesting piece. The author talked about how guns didn't bother her, and she carried for years. At the end though, she said she preferred not needing to carry a gun, which seemed almost like she wanted to return to innocence.

                        It seems that many people prefer putting risk out of their mind to taking positive steps to mitigate it. I hate to traffic in human misery, but I think that stories showing how firearms have saved lives need to get put out there more. The NRA, or someone, needs to develop an ad campaign to the effect of "I would have been dead were it not for a gun". Don't go into statistics of how a gun makes your outcomes better. Nothing but stories of "I was attacked on my way home. The police told me afterward that having that gun saved my life." Make them as apolitical as possible. We're not trying to change how the reader votes, or sell them anything; we're just telling them a story that had a happy ending because of a gun.
                        If you're not a resident of California, please don't waste your time trying to sell handguns here. A: your handgun is not on the approved list, and can't be sold here or B: We can already get it here with less hassle.

                        Thank you CGF and Leadership FFLs for NeRFing the roster!

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                        • #57
                          Sajedene
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 1889

                          That was a great article. Thanks for posting. I need to go find that issue from the racks now.

                          Random Thoughts of a Cereal Kind.

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                          • #58
                            joedogboy
                            Banned
                            • May 2010
                            • 1444

                            Originally posted by wutzu
                            I think that stories showing how firearms have saved lives need to get put out there more. The NRA, or someone, needs to develop an ad campaign to the effect of "I would have been dead were it not for a gun". Don't go into statistics of how a gun makes your outcomes better. Nothing but stories of "I was attacked on my way home. The police told me afterward that having that gun saved my life." Make them as apolitical as possible. We're not trying to change how the reader votes, or sell them anything; we're just telling them a story that had a happy ending because of a gun.
                            Such a campaign could take the Brady slogan "If it saves just one life, it's worth it" and turn it to a good use.

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                            • #59
                              campperrykid
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 516

                              Paxton Quigley has been writing books and giving interviews for a very long time . She may have been the only armed female that the M. C. staff knew existed.
                              Here's a couple of links for some women who know how it's done , and some of them have done it more than once...

                              Arming Women Against Rape And Endangerment ( Nice job with the Kubaton ! ):


                              Cornered Cat ( "If you need to fight , Fight like a cornered cat ". ):
                              " ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
                              Tony from New York .

                              Conflict Resolution 201:
                              Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
                              Don't MESS with US !

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                              • #60
                                campperrykid
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 516

                                This thread is way to good to die.
                                " ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
                                Tony from New York .

                                Conflict Resolution 201:
                                Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
                                Don't MESS with US !

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