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[ImOverHere]

Lawmakers Want Concealed Weapons On Campus
Bill Advances To House Judiciary Committed

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/13331696/detail.html?treets=dgo&tid=2658584453813&tml=dgo_4pm&tmi=dgo_4pm_1_06000405162007&ts=H

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- A South Carolina House panel approved a bill Wednesday that would allow people to carry concealed weapons on school campuses.

The bill advanced to the House Judiciary Committee on a two-to-one vote. Supporters said concealed weapon holders could prevent massacres like last month's slayings at Virginia Tech.

A resident must be at least 21, undergo at least eight hours of handgun training, and pass criminal and mental background checks to obtain a concealed weapon permit in the state.

Police chiefs of college campuses across South Carolina spoke against the measure. They said it would make it more difficult for officers to identify the bad guys when they arrive at a crime scene.

[xjrguy]

Lawmakers Want Concealed Weapons On Campus
Bill Advances To House Judiciary Committed

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/13331696/detail.html?treets=dgo&tid=2658584453813&tml=dgo_4pm&tmi=dgo_4pm_1_06000405162007&ts=H

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- A South Carolina House panel approved a bill Wednesday that would allow people to carry concealed weapons on school campuses.

The bill advanced to the House Judiciary Committee on a two-to-one vote. Supporters said concealed weapon holders could prevent massacres like last month's slayings at Virginia Tech.

A resident must be at least 21, undergo at least eight hours of handgun training, and pass criminal and mental background checks to obtain a concealed weapon permit in the state.

Police chiefs of college campuses across South Carolina spoke against the measure. They said it would make it more difficult for officers to identify the bad guys when they arrive at a crime scene.

This is great news too!

Score one for common sense and CCW in South Carolina!!!!

[shark92651]

Police officers arrive at the crime scene? I though they showed up after all the bodies had already hit the floor. By the time they show up the "bad guy" has usually already offed himself anyway. Maybe with CCW on campus one of the "good guys" can help him to it a little earlier and with a lower body count.

Lawmakers Want Concealed Weapons On Campus
Bill Advances To House Judiciary Committed

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/13331696/detail.html?treets=dgo&tid=2658584453813&tml=dgo_4pm&tmi=dgo_4pm_1_06000405162007&ts=H

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- A South Carolina House panel approved a bill Wednesday that would allow people to carry concealed weapons on school campuses.

The bill advanced to the House Judiciary Committee on a two-to-one vote. Supporters said concealed weapon holders could prevent massacres like last month's slayings at Virginia Tech.

A resident must be at least 21, undergo at least eight hours of handgun training, and pass criminal and mental background checks to obtain a concealed weapon permit in the state.

Police chiefs of college campuses across South Carolina spoke against the measure. They said it would make it more difficult for officers to identify the bad guys when they arrive at a crime scene.

[ImOverHere]

Police officers arrive at the crime scene? I though they showed up after all the bodies had already hit the floor. By the time they show up the "bad guy" has usually already offed himself anyway. Maybe with CCW on campus one of the "good guys" can help him to it a little earlier and with a lower body count.

That was my impression as well. Note that it's the bureaucratic chiefs that make such statements.

<< Police chiefs of college campuses across South Carolina spoke against the measure. They said it would make it more difficult for officers to identify the bad guys when they arrive at a crime scene. >>

IMO, they are most typically politicians, not line officers promoted upwards who carry with them the mentality of the LEO on the street.

[xjrguy]

That was my impression as well. Note that it's the bureaucratic chiefs that make such statements.

<< Police chiefs of college campuses across South Carolina spoke against the measure. They said it would make it more difficult for officers to identify the bad guys when they arrive at a crime scene. >>

IMO, they are most typically politicians, not line officers promoted upwards who carry with them the mentality of the LEO on the street.

Doesn't surprise me.

Why don't they give the measure a chance before speaking against it?

Apparently the old way of doing things (being unarmed) doesn't work.

[JALLEN]

Maybe the armed student will amble out and identify himself while the cops are setting up a command post, and a media center, and a doughnut line.

[ImOverHere]

Why don't they give the measure a chance before speaking against it?

IMO? Reflexive PC liberalism.

[xjrguy]

Also helps justify budgets and job security if the public isn't armed and doing part of the job cops should be there for.

[CalNRA]

That was my impression as well. Note that it's the bureaucratic chiefs that make such statements.

<< Police chiefs of college campuses across South Carolina spoke against the measure. They said it would make it more difficult for officers to identify the bad guys when they arrive at a crime scene. >>

IMO, they are most typically politicians, not line officers promoted upwards who carry with them the mentality of the LEO on the street.

a dead student is an innocent one to these police chiefs I suppose.

[Smokeybehr]

a dead student is an innocent one to these police chiefs I suppose.

It's similar to the line that the Brady Bunch believes that a woman lying dead and raped with her pantyhose around her neck is morally superior to a woman with a rapist lying dead at her feet.

[hitnrun]

This is great news too!

Score one for common sense and CCW in South Carolina!!!!

Good for them, but what about us.

Why can't lawmakers work on a political rotation? You know like beat assignments for cops, but different political climates for legislators.

Maybe they'd balance out by the time they got here, then again, when our politicians leave, they might not make it back.

[ldivinag]

oh my goodness...

there will be blood running through the SC schools...


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[tango-52]

CCW is legal already on California campuses. It is just a matter of actually having a CCW. More detailed discussion at:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=58303

[Fate]

Police chiefs of college campuses across South Carolina spoke against the measure. They said it would make it more difficult for officers to identify the bad guys when they arrive at a crime scene.

The bad guy will be the corpse encircled by numerous armed students with smoking guns.

[Piper]

I don't like to bash law enforcement, but they make it so easy sometimes. Especialy when they say that they are opposed to CCW's on campuses because it will make it difficult to identify the shooter.

Unfortunately, I have this nasty tendency to read between the lines and so I read, we're really sorry that your dead but at least I can sort out my crime scene without having to actually figure out whats what.

At the academy I attended, we learned to gather all the players up and sort things out slowly and methodically and determine who was who based on physical evidence and witnesses. I mean how difficult is that? Or maybe it's just too time consuming and it may cut into code 7.