AR and Muzzle Break

[Exile Machine]

Only concern is that it says it is not DOJ approved ...

Not to worry. No CA-compliance product has been approved by the DOJ.

-Mark

[Flopper]

Went and looked up the Raddlock and it is an awesome idea, well as awesome as a BB can be anyway. Only concern is that it says it is not DOJ approved for some reason. I might go that way for my second build as the first already has a standard BB installed.

That's standard for all BB's and other "CA compliance devices."

The reason it says "not DOJ approved" is because the DOJ will not issue any acknowledgments of anything we do as being legal.

They intentionally do this to discourage people from exercising their rights, but the Raddlock is most certainly legal and used on thousands of non-detachable mag rifles.

[MaHoTex]

That's standard for all BB's and other "CA compliance devices."

The reason it says "not DOJ approved" is because the DOJ will not issue any acknowledgments of anything we do as being legal.

They intentionally do this to discourage people from exercising their rights, but the Raddlock is most certainly legal and used on thousands of non-detachable mag rifles.

Good enough for me. I suppose that since I do not plan on taking my rifles outside CA (unless I move away) it really does not matter. If the law changes (yeah right) I will just put a regular mag release on it, otherwise, it will always be BB for featured and std mag release.

My main focus is to make sure everything I do is legal: The only think I know for SURE is I must have a muzzle brake and apparently I am legal for that.

Revieweing the AW chart here at Calguns, it says the a "Flash Suppressor" makes it a featured rifle, yet Muzzle Break is not listed. So, I presume I can have a Muzzle Brake installed and still be featureless (forgetting about everything else at this point.) Muzzle Brake seems to be a questionable item to me. By definition it is NOT the same thing, but visually it sure looks the same to me.

[$P-Ritch$]

Good enough for me. I suppose that since I do not plan on taking my rifles outside CA (unless I move away) it really does not matter. If the law changes (yeah right) I will just put a regular mag release on it, otherwise, it will always be BB for featured and std mag release.

My main focus is to make sure everything I do is legal: The only think I know for SURE is I must have a muzzle brake and apparently I am legal for that.

Revieweing the AW chart here at Calguns, it says the a "Flash Suppressor" makes it a featured rifle, yet Muzzle Break is not listed. So, I presume I can have a Muzzle Brake installed and still be featureless (forgetting about everything else at this point.) Muzzle Brake seems to be a questionable item to me. By definition it is NOT the same thing, but visually it sure looks the same to me.

That's just because the know it alls that made the law think that an attachment that can reduce the felt recoil rather hide the report of the flash is somehow less dangerous.

If you try to think of ca gun laws with logic all you end up with is a headache. Lucky for you that you want a brake and not a flash hider because it turns out brakes are less "Evil".

Going with a brake you'll be fine for featureless assuming you meet all other given criteria per the flowchart.

[Rogu3]

Here ya go.

Actually did the same search yesterday.

[socal2310]

Only concern is that it says it is not DOJ approved for some reason.

Neither is the bullet button, the monster man grip or the hammerhead. That which is not prohibited is permissible, whether DOJ likes it or not. To the best of my knowledge there has not yet been a successful prosecution of anyone using such a tool apart from other real violations.

Ryan

[MaHoTex]

Thanks for all the help team! I am sure I will be back a million times asking question which I can not seem to find answers for!

[OHW]

Went and looked up the Raddlock and it is an awesome idea, well as awesome as a BB can be anyway. Only concern is that it says it is not DOJ approved for some reason. I might go that way for my second build as the first already has a standard BB installed.

nm.

[the_quark]

Muzzle Brake seems to be a questionable item to me. By definition it is NOT the same thing, but visually it sure looks the same to me.

Well, the "flash supressor" language is unconstitutionally vague. If anyone ever got popped for an "assault weapon" where the only thing questionable was that it had a flash suppressor, we'd probably be able to overturn the law.

We're optimistic we'll overturn all of 12276 in the near future. In a worst-case world where we fail at that, though, I'm confident we'd eventually strike "flash suppressor" from the list of features as being unconstitutionally vague. And, we'll do that if we have to save someone's skin. Just no point in doing it in the short-term when we're hoping to kill the whole law "soonish".

[JSilvoso]

[MaHoTex]

Thanks again all. You guys are really great!