COMPOUNDING AN ARREST: 'photos of man posing with guns & knives.'

[Sam Hainn]

Ok - This guy's actions are kind of immature, but the call for his arrest looks aggravated by his website pics. It doesn't sound like the signs made threats, they were just stupid. But the quote by anti-gun LA city councilman Jack Weiss in the article was probably a motivator for the arrest. I wonder if the same act without seeing his 'website photos' the signs would've just been removed and ignored (I think his using 'glue' was why it's felony vandalism):

When the name "Don Irwin" is typed in that site's search field, two results lead to a user profile that contains photos of a man posing with guns and knives.

"The image of the swastikas is bad enough; those additional images only make it worse," Weiss said.

MAN ARRESTED IN POSTING OF SWASTIKAS ON L.A. OFFICIAL'S DOOR

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/valley/la-me-arrest5may05,1,6657341.story?coll=la-editions-valley&ctrack=2&cset=true

When the name "Don Irwin" is typed in that site's search field, two results lead to a user profile that contains photos of a man posing with guns and knives.

"The image of the swastikas is bad enough; those additional images only make it worse," Weiss said. "I think that it sends a very good message to the community that the LAPD prioritizes and solves these types of cases so quickly because the essence of a hate crime is to spread the impact throughout the community."

[tenpercentfirearms]

Amazing. It is a crime to put swastikas on an assemblyman's door? Worse yet if you do that and have guns, that makes you a felon?

I am so glad I don't live in Los Angeles.

[bwiese]

Let's not worry about this stoopidsh*t bozo nutjob.

He was just asking for trouble and likely just needed the attention.

[pnkssbtz]

I think the vandalism is that he was GLUING the signs to the front door.

I know from first hand accounts that gluing stuff to front doors that it causes serious damage. (An incident with a neighboor, I superglued bologna to his front door... amazing how much work it takes to get it off...)

[slick_711]

I don't know about being deserving of a felony, but the guy is certainly an idiot. Like Bill said, let's not even worry about somethin stupid like that when we have BWO to keep an eye on and support.

[Crazed_SS]

In Politically Correct California, posting anything anti a race or religion is just asking for problems. It's the communist way of stomping free speech. The thing this guy was doing was completely stupid. He'll be charged with a hate crime and have a record for the rest of his life. Not smart.

So you think it's OK to go around posting hate material on propety that isnt yours?

You guys amaze me.

[slick_711]

I said no such thing? I find it contemptible and if I'd found him posting swastikas on my house I'd have hospitalized him. I simply said it may not be worthy of a felony and/or our attention.

Personally I'm in favor of creative sentencing. If I were a judge and encountered this guys case, where he is clearly racist and possibly militant, I would sentence him to 1 month in county lock-up (better if you can subtly make sure it's a mixed race cell), and then 36 hours of community service in east-central L.A. doing city beautification (in other words, painting over gang graffiti). If he doesn't learn some compassion from those two activities I'd say hes a lost cause. You ever see what the A.P. Bloods do to white people that don't belong in their neighborhood? Let alone white people that are painting over their tags...

[dychen]

You ever see what the A.P. Bloods do to white people that don't belong in their neighborhood? Let alone white people that are painting over their tags...

Cause putting someone thats already raciest in that kind of situation is going to make him change his mindset

[StukaJr]

Cause putting someone thats already raciest in that kind of situation is going to make him change his mindset

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The message is lost on many of you - the swastikas were meant to state that Weiss is a Nazi, using heavy handed sarcasm...

The actions of the individual are rather questionable and possibly suggest unstable mental state - multiple unanswered (and illegible) complaints do not justify acts of vandalism. I'm not defending the individual but at the same time - it's an act of hate crime but not necessarily a hate crime...

Would I want him to keep his guns? Perhaps not. Does the behavior violate at least two requirements on FFL form? In my opinion, yes it does.

[Crazed_SS]

You ever see what the A.P. Bloods do to white people that don't belong in their neighborhood?

I dunno.. the same thing they do to anyone who doesnt belong there?

[Solidmch]

Let's not worry about this stoopidsh*t bozo nutjob.

He was just asking for trouble and likely just needed the attention.

+1 on that

[Sam Hainn]

I think the vandalism is that he was GLUING the signs to the front door.

I know from first hand accounts that gluing stuff to front doors that it causes serious damage. (An incident with a neighboor, I superglued bologna to his front door... amazing how much work it takes to get it off...)

That's what I said too. Using glue = felony vandalism. I'm not concerend with this guy. He sounds nuts. But his message looks like it was political protest not a hate crime. If he did not have a website with gun pic poses would this crime of glued signs been treated like other grafitti & vadalism? just cleaned up and ignored? This guy's now arrested and his website photos were a factor. This & his prior actions will get him a restraining order by Weiss which means he won't own guns anymore like it or not. He's an idiot. But will charges for acts now done in typical political protest that aren't hate crime be made to appear worse just cause you have a website with 'gun photos'?

[Socal858]

ok guys everbody delete all the pictures online where you have your arm around your spouse/girlfriend/sister/mother/random female, before we get arrested for sexual harrassment

[Sam Hainn]

ok guys everbody delete all the pictures online where you have your arm around your spouse/girlfriend/sister/mother/random female, before we get arrested for sexual harrassment

Or being a pimp. or prostitution.

[Rumpled]

First off, this guy is a whack job.
But, this whole "hate crime" bothers me. If someone calls Rosie fat in the PRK they just might call it a "hate crime".
I'm gonna assume Irwin is Jewish, not by his surname; but by his message in reference to being a Jewish American child. Wouldn't this be a lot like an African-American calling someone a Uncle Tom?
Is Jew on Jew a hate crime? Or any X on X?

It's free speech, but poorly done.