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  • #46
    jamesob
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 4821

    Originally posted by gunsmith
    post 33
    serious, thats what you have? where is the connection between his ccw being public info and related to the crime?
    Last edited by jamesob; 08-03-2010, 2:32 PM.

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    • #47
      gunsmith
      Senior Member
      • May 2004
      • 2028

      hey, its years old! I've been looking!
      NRA Life Member

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      • #48
        Crom
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 1619

        Originally posted by jamesob
        serious, thats what you have? where is the connection between his ccw being public info and related to the crime?
        It was the first line of the article.


        Less than a week after the Cleveland Plain Dealer published Bill Singleton's name among a list of people who have chosen to obtain a [CCW] license to bear arms for self-defense, Mr. Singleton is dead.

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        • #49
          jamesob
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 4821

          Originally posted by Crom
          It was the first line of the article.
          thats proof that they are linked? thats like saying that joe blow purchased a chevy and 2 days later he is killed in a auto accident, if he would have purchased a honda it would have never happened.
          show me proof that the murderer admitted that he killed because he read in the paper that victim had a ccw. your not going to because it's b.s.
          also did the 17 yr. old have a ccw? he got shot and killed also.
          maybe just maybe that this happened because 3 dirtbags robbed 2 people that was at a check cashing business, where they have lots of cash.
          Last edited by jamesob; 08-03-2010, 7:13 PM.

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          • #50
            tgun
            Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 108

            I don't see how publishing it in a newspaper matters much. Anybody can put in a records request and walk out with all of your names. After that, home addresses and DOB's are usually trivial. Sooner or later some anti-gunner is going to post the whole shebang on the Internet.

            When you do business with the government, the record is public. If you want to keep something private, quit asking the government for permission.
            Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

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            • #51
              BillCA
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 3821

              Several years ago, the Roanoke (Va) times put up a searchable database of county residents who had CCW's. The backlash to that was swift and heated. Several CCW holders pursued litigation against The Times and the initial trial court dismissed, saying the Times was legally entitled to public "public records". A second suit, alleging willful endangerment was, IIRC, settled out of court. Their point was that just because the Times can publish doesn't mean they should publish (and they failed to consider the safety implications for the CCW holders).

              Any time you see a hint of a newspaper preparing such a story, immediately fire off a letter to it's board of directors and editors. Remind them that while they may have duty to report, they also have a duty not to endanger people in their expose. Failing to consider the impact on persons who have obtained a CCW as protection from abusive spouses, gang members, criminals they've testified against or based on their jobs, can and will result in litigation.

              I did this when the Washoe letter showed up.

              Re: CCW's & Employment:
              I'd never tell my employer that I have a CCW. If he figures it out himself, then that's another thing. As a holder of a permit, if the company fires me specifically for having that permit we can argue the legalities in court. But it will most likely be for some other "cause" or reason (i.e. reorganization). If an employer's rules are no guns in the workplace, then I have to abide by those rules if I want to keep my job.

              If you have a TRO against someone for threats, never tell your employer about it. Legal advice to employers is to terminate a TRO holder if there is any possibility that the restrained person might come to the workplace and cause violence. This is because lawyers will claim the company knew of a potential violent hazard and failed to take "remedial action" to prevent it.

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              • #52
                gunsmith
                Senior Member
                • May 2004
                • 2028

                sigh

                Originally posted by jamesob
                show me proof that the murderer admitted that he killed because he read in the paper that victim had a ccw. your not going to because it's b.s.
                .
                Sure, as soon as they catch the SOB and he confesses we'll have proof.

                also did the 17 yr. old have a ccw? he got shot and killed also
                Hey, the 17 year old was robbing the guy and got shot in the process, please at least read the article.

                The fact is, soon after his name was published, he was attacked ambush style.
                The proof you seek is difficult to come by when the actors are dead and his accomplices are still free.

                Presuming that armed robbers do not case the place and read newspapers and get as much info as they can is pure folly. Dangerous Folly
                NRA Life Member

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                • #53
                  YubaRiver
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 991

                  Here is what Marion County, Oregon is sending to concealed carriers.

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