Break down the Face to Face Rules in Arizona for me.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Ok, so I know it is illegal for any California resident to go out of state and take possession of firearms and bring them back in. All CA residents must receive their firearms acquisitions from a licensed 01 FFL (let's leave C&R and CMP out of it).

So here is the question. Can a CA resident take a firearm to Arizona and face to face it to an Arizona resident? If the Arizona resident face to faces a firearm to the California resident, what specific laws has the Arizona resident broken (aka I know it is illegal, cite some law). Can an Arizona resident face to face guns from residents of other states other than California? Which ones? Can an Arizona resident receive face to face guns in other states?

Thanks for the help.

[Ding126]

across state lines require an FFL ( period )

[Ding126]

When I lived in AZ I kept my CDL..I did bring some of my az weapons to CA and sold them FTF while I was a resident of AZ..I believe I was able to do it in CA due to my CDL..of course everything was through an FFL

[russ69]

Interesting question. Of course you have to follow the laws of each state so California would require you to ship through a FFL. On the other hand I'm not sure if California could prosecute you for something that happened in another state? The Feds could, I guess, if they were interested.

Thanx, Russ

[Cokebottle]

Interesting question. Of course you have to follow the laws of each state so California would require you to ship through a FFL. On the other hand I'm not sure if California could prosecute you for something that happened in another state? The Feds could, I guess, if they were interested.

Thanx, Russ

California does not require you to SHIP through an FFL.... you must RECEIVE through an FFL.
A California resident can ship directly to an FFL in another state.

It's a BATF law... transfers between residents of different states must involve an FFL.

[dustoff31]

Ok, so I know it is illegal for any California resident to go out of state and take possession of firearms and bring them back in. All CA residents must receive their firearms acquisitions from a licensed 01 FFL (let's leave C&R and CMP out of it).

ETA: I take by face to face you mean private party sales, if so, all the scenarios you describe are prohibited by CFR Sec. 178.30 Out-of-State disposition of firearms by nonlicensees.

No nonlicensee shall transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or
deliver any firearm to any other nonlicensee, who the transferor knows
or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person
is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of
business in) the State in which the transferor resides: Provided, That
the provisions of this section:
(a) shall not apply to the transfer, transportation, or delivery of
a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or any
acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is
permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of
his residence; and
(b) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any person
for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

So here is the question. Can a CA resident take a firearm to Arizona and face to face it to an Arizona resident?

No.

If the Arizona resident face to faces a firearm to the California resident, what specific laws has the Arizona resident broken (aka I know it is illegal, cite some law).

If it can be shown that the AZ resident knew that the other party was from CA, the AZ resident could be charged with violation of ARS 13-3106, and CFR 178.30.

Can an Arizona resident face to face guns from residents of other states other than California?

No.

Which ones?

None.

Can an Arizona resident receive face to face guns in other states?

No.

Arizona Revised Statutes

13-3106. Firearm purchase in other states

A person residing in this state, or a corporation or other business entity maintaining a place of business in this state, may purchase or otherwise obtain firearms anywhere in the United States if such purchase or acquisition fully complies with the laws of this state and the state in which the purchase or acquisition is made and the purchaser and seller, prior to the sale or delivery for sale, have complied with all the requirements of the federal gun control act of 1968, Public Law 90-618, section 922, subsection (c) and the Code of Federal Regulations, volume 26, section 178.96, subsection (c).

ETA: My comments relate only to long guns, as handguns are covered by fed law. And frankly AZ law is irrevalent as all this is covered by fed law.

[GearHead]

California does not require you to SHIP through an FFL.... you must RECEIVE through an FFL.
A California resident can ship directly to an FFL in another state.

It's a BATF law... transfers between residents of different states must involve an FFL.

Not true. In some states you can actually go to another state and buy a longgun, provided the requirements of purchase are satisfied on both states sides.

In my home state of Colorado, I could drive to Utah and pick up an AR if I felt like it. ATF said it is fine because both of the states requirements have been met.

Handguns must always be received in your home state (C&R aside, of course).

[dustoff31]

Not true. In some states you can actually go to another state and buy a longgun, provided the requirements of purchase are satisfied on both states sides.

In my home state of Colorado, I could drive to Utah and pick up an AR if I felt like it. ATF said it is fine because both of the states requirements have been met.

Handguns must always be received in your home state (C&R aside, of course).

Cokebottle is correct. As a CO resident you could buy a rifle in UT, but you had to buy from a licensee, not a private party.

CFR Sec. 178.30 Out-of-State disposition of firearms by nonlicensees.

No nonlicensee shall transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or
deliver any firearm to any other nonlicensee, who the transferor knows
or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person
is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of
business in) the State in which the transferor resides: Provided, That
the provisions of this section:
(a) shall not apply to the transfer, transportation, or delivery of
a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or any
acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is
permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of
his residence; and
(b) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any person
for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.