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  • ipser
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 558

    More Guns, Less Crime: Reprise

    In 1998, John R. Lott Jr. dropped a bombshell on the academic and legal worlds with More Guns, Less Crime. Lott had conducted perhaps the most detailed study of crime in history, using data from every county in America, and concluded that right-to-carry (RTC) laws -- which allow citizens to carry concealed guns, but typically require them to receive training and pass a background check first -- reduce crime.

    The University of Chicago Press has just released a third edition of the book, with updated numbers and more than 100 pages of new material. In addition to expanding Lott's argument with data from the last decade, it provides an excellent chance to look at the current state of the gun-policy debate.

    Three things are clear. One, despite years in the academic spotlight, this book's central argument about right-to-carry laws has failed to create any kind of consensus. Two, the dire predictions of right-to-carry opponents have not come true. Three, the next great gun-control debate will concern handgun bans -- and, Lott's attempt to demonstrate that they increase murder notwithstanding, their effect on crime rates is no clearer than right-to-carry laws'.

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    RRangel
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 5164

    Three, the next great gun-control debate will concern handgun bans -- and, Lott's attempt to demonstrate that they increase murder notwithstanding, their effect on crime rates is no clearer than right-to-carry laws'.
    How does one argue this?

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    • #3
      Nose Nuggets
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2008
      • 6801

      That, was a really good article. It brings up a lot of good points about the possible issues with a lot of the statistical over-time data presented in the book. However, the greatest pieces sum up the debate very well, in that there should be no debate.



      Originally posted by The Article
      With the econometricians still going back and forth after more than a decade, there's really no way for everyday citizens to choose sides -- as much as we may want to, and as much as activist organizations might urge us to. And as the National Academies panel suggested, it may be that econometric techniques are not precise enough to settle this debate, no matter how long we let the professionals fight it out.


      Originally posted by The Article
      The most important question is this: When people get concealed-carry permits, do they go on to misuse their guns? People often express concern, for example, that in the adrenaline rush of a car accident, an angry armed motorist might shoot the guy who ran into him.

      Lott has been reporting on the behavior of permit holders for years, but the third edition of More Guns, Less Crime includes his most comprehensive list to date. Very few concealed-carry permits are revoked: In the 14 states that keep detailed records, revocation totals range from .01 to .25 percent, and overwhelmingly, revocations occur not because the permit holder misused a gun, but because he violated some other law. (In Kentucky, for example, the most common reason for revocation is a lack of vehicle insurance. In Utah, it's "alcohol violations.") Lott was able to find only 23 examples of permit holders committing murder with guns from 1990 to July 2008 -- assuming his list is comprehensive, that's a murder rate of 1/182nd that of the general population.

      Meanwhile, in a much shorter period of time -- Dec. 14, 2008, to Jan. 11, 2009 -- ten permit holders stopped violent crimes. So, without resorting to regression analysis, we can prove reasonably convincingly that RTC does virtually no harm and some good.

      This methodology, of course, fails to count the crimes that RTC deters -- the times when criminals don't even attack, out of fear that their victims might be armed. But once one has shown that permit holders don't commit crimes -- and thus that granting them additional freedom doesn't harm society -- any deterrence they provide is simply icing on the cake.

      Originally posted by The Article
      Gun-rights supporters shouldn't have to prove anything. They are on the side of freedom. Gun controllers, by contrast, want to restrict freedom, and thus must prove that their policies provide benefits that are worth that freedom. Whether the topic is RTC, handgun bans, buyback programs, assault-weapon restrictions, or registries, there is simply no evidence whatsoever indicating that to be the case. That's one thing that Lott and the debate he inspired have proven -- whatever the merits of the claim that gun control actually increases crime.


      "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." -Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        craneman
        • Jan 2010
        • 1329

        That was a good read. The sad and unfortunate part is, that the people that are elected and cram useless and unnecessary laws down our throats, don't really care about crime rates or our safety. I am convinced that these findings are the unbiased truths. How the heck do you convince the rest of society?
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        Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Because they are stupid. They will follow evil geniuses and do their bidding, because they are stupid.

        Really super stupid people look up to, and follow stupid people like they were geniuses, because to them, they are. Unfortunately the reality of it is, that doesn't make stupid people any smarter.

        That right there is the root cause to most problems in the world.

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        • #5
          N6ATF
          Banned
          • Jul 2007
          • 8383

          Oh, they care about crime rates... making them as high as possible, and destroying every last vestige of safety we can bestow upon ourselves.

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          • #6
            holyhandgrenade
            Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 374

            I literally finished the Second edition of this book yesterday. Now they go add 100 more pages to it. Guess that'll just have to be added to the pile of reading...

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