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  • ElkHunterSL
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 282

    DOJ Called Me Today...

    Today I received a call from the DOJ. When I purchased my XD back in May I was curious about gun rights related to Hunting and Fishing.

    I had emailed the DOJ questions regarding CC as it relates to going to and coming from Fishing/Hunting.

    I guess they were finally getting through the backlog of emails and called me.

    The lady at DOJ basically told me that in a vehicle on the way to and from fishing/hunting I cannot CC. That I need to abide by the regular laws related to locking up my gun, etc.

    She said while engaged in hunting I could CC but if I was finishing my hunt and heading back to my car or back to my camp I could not CC. That once I got back to camp I could CC again.

    So basically what I got from her info was this scenario:

    1. Fishing/hunting - Get out of my car or campsite. UOC until I get to my fishing/hunting hole, then I can CC. Once done, I must UOC as I walk back to my car or campsite.

    FUD or the Truth? I would think that if I'm in the woods I can CC the entire time, even if I"m walking back to camp.
    sigpic Steve from So. Cal.
  • #2
    xxsleepyxx
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 767

    Excuse me, how long ago did you e-mail them? They are quite backed up I e-mailed them too.

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    • #3
      ElkHunterSL
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 282

      The day I got my gun. Maybe 4 weeks ago.
      sigpic Steve from So. Cal.

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      • #4
        CavTrooper
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2007
        • 5944

        DOJ wouldnt be the authority on... well... anything really.

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        • #5
          G17GUY
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 2343

          Wow DOJ is just calling everyone.
          sigpic

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          • #6
            1911_Mitch
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 678

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            Last edited by 1911_Mitch; 08-17-2018, 10:22 PM.
            CA born (5th gen), CA educated, Eagle Scout, NRA Member, Father, Small Business owner, Cancer survivor, Patriot

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            • #7
              Lagduf
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 675

              I've emailed DOJ twice and got a response in 1-2 weeks each time.

              They're idiots though.
              Originally posted by Gio
              It is so nice to drop mags freely even though I do that now with my featureless AR and AK it is not the same as the real thing. Like Coca Cola here in the US compared to Mexico with real sugar not corn syrup!

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              • #8
                SJgunguy24
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2008
                • 14849

                Originally posted by 1911_Mitch
                And the reason they are calling instead of responding by email is so that there is no paper trail and they have complete deniability.
                Originally posted by HK45 GUY
                This
                Yep, ask Allison about putting stuff on DOJ letter head
                There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                The others, well......they just never learn.

                "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                Patrick Henry.

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                • #9
                  ElkHunterSL
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 282

                  Originally posted by ElkHunterSL
                  Today I received a call from the DOJ. When I purchased my XD back in May I was curious about gun rights related to Hunting and Fishing.

                  I had emailed the DOJ questions regarding CC as it relates to going to and coming from Fishing/Hunting.

                  I guess they were finally getting through the backlog of emails and called me.

                  The lady at DOJ basically told me that in a vehicle on the way to and from fishing/hunting I cannot CC. That I need to abide by the regular laws related to locking up my gun, etc.

                  She said while engaged in hunting I could CC but if I was finishing my hunt and heading back to my car or back to my camp I could not CC. That once I got back to camp I could CC again.

                  So basically what I got from her info was this scenario:

                  1. Fishing/hunting - Get out of my car or campsite. UOC until I get to my fishing/hunting hole, then I can CC. Once done, I must UOC as I walk back to my car or campsite.

                  FUD or the Truth? I would think that if I'm in the woods I can CC the entire time, even if I"m walking back to camp.
                  So was it FUD or the Truth?
                  sigpic Steve from So. Cal.

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                  • #10
                    thayne
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2289

                    I thought you could LOC anywhere that you can shoot on blm or national forest land?
                    "It wasn't a failure of laws," said Amanda Wilcox, who along with her husband, Nick, lobbies for the California chapter of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "I just don't see how our gun laws could have stopped something like that."

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                    • #11
                      ElkHunterSL
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 282

                      Yes, LOC, but what about Loaded Conceal Carry?
                      sigpic Steve from So. Cal.

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                      • #12
                        Paradiddle
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1742

                        Originally posted by ElkHunterSL
                        Yes, LOC, but what about Loaded Conceal Carry?
                        I don't know the answer but why woulnd't you just LOC when hunting? Seems that if you need your handgun while in the field you are in some type of trouble and that drawing from cover would be slower then drawing from an exposed holster.

                        I know my IPDA draw is slower then my IPSC draw.

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                        • #13
                          ElkHunterSL
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 282

                          Originally posted by Paradiddle
                          I don't know the answer but why woulnd't you just LOC when hunting? Seems that if you need your handgun while in the field you are in some type of trouble and that drawing from cover would be slower then drawing from an exposed holster.

                          I know my IPDA draw is slower then my IPSC draw.
                          When I hunt I use a Rifle, but I want my handgun as a backup. And I usually wear a jacket so the gun would be concealed underneath the jacket.
                          sigpic Steve from So. Cal.

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                          • #14
                            1911_Mitch
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 678

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                            Last edited by 1911_Mitch; 08-17-2018, 10:23 PM.
                            CA born (5th gen), CA educated, Eagle Scout, NRA Member, Father, Small Business owner, Cancer survivor, Patriot

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                            • #15
                              winnre
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9214

                              Originally posted by 1911_Mitch
                              but it would appear ok as long as you are not within an incorporated city or in a prohibited area of unincorporated territory.
                              Do they have a color for that on a map?
                              "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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