antigun Meg Whitman moving away from semi-antigun Poizner, but damaged goods...

[HondaMasterTech]

Poizner = Primary
Brown = General

It's going to take years with a decent Governor/Legislature etc to fix California.

[GutPunch]

Thank you for saying it!

Personally I am horrified by all candidates. What I can't believe is how many people here sound like they like Brown! I never knew so much amnesia could exist.

QFT. What the heck? Vote for Brown?? Congrats you have someone who is neutral towards guns. But he is way wacky with a lot of other issues like taxes and spending.

[JimWest]

[QUOTE=C.W.M.V.;4351106]Sadly there is more at stake than gun rights, and that is why I could never in good conscience vote for a democrat. QUOTE]

This is wear I stand on this also, at least, for now. Tom McClintock's endorsement of Poizner has me favoring him now.

Regarding Brown, wasn't there some stink to him over the appointment of Gianturco? Cant' recall off hand.

[bwiese]

Tom McClintock's endorsement of Poizner has me favoring him now.

Should be irrelevant...

1. Tom McClintock's endorsement of Poizner is just internal party
machine politics, and has relatively little to do with ideology, etc.
Hell, it could be for Poizner's campaign staff to find landing zones
after campaign closes.

2. This endorsement couldn't have much to do with gunrights since
I have no information McClintock has done anything to really drive or
carry achievable gun bills forward. McClintock indeed talks a good
gun game, but is merely a reliable "No" vote on bad gun bills.

[advocatusdiaboli]

This. JB accepts the RKBA as an individual right should (and will) apply to Californians. While I doubt he will be pro-gun I have seen no evidence that he is anti-gun. If he is neutral but willing to support the constitution and SCOTUS he is better than any alternative and better than what we have and anything we have had in some years.

+1. 2A is all that matters to me from my state government. In my view the government and economy in california will take decades to fix--if indeed it can ever be much more than "band-aided" at all. California spent $14 billion on healthcare for illegal aliens in 2009--no one in the legislature nor any candidate from governor has the will to fix that. Our teachers are the highest paid in the nation, but our spending per student, bureaucrats (non-teachers per student) and class sizes are ranked in the 20s and test performance is in the 40s--no one is fixing that. Prop 13 allowed a housing value bubble that has still to fully pop making housing prices relative to income some of the most unaffordable in the country--there is no fix that won't hurt homeowners so it won't be fixed by anyone. Municipalities are cutting to the bone and the state won't be far behind--and still taxes will increase though we get less and less for our money. I could go on, but you get the idea. The problems are very long term and most are intractable. Stick a fork in CA, it's done. While I live here a bit more, I just want my 2A rights.

[stitchnicklas]

i am doing a write in.........bwiese for governor

[Mike61982]

Well Meg doesn't have my vote. Poizner I know we can't trust him. You look at browns record when it comes to the Second Amendment and he stands for gun rights. As far as everything else, I live by these DTA Don't trust Anybody
If you still want your guns you'll vote for brown. I feel he is more qualified than anyone running for Governor. Talking bout Jerry Brown.. Be smart and think GUNS!!!!!!!!!!

[navyinrwanda]

I wrote to Whitman, I told her I knew a bunch of conservative handgun owners who are prepared to give Brown their vote. I have now been contacted by one of her policy advisers who would like to have a sit-down and discuss my views...this should be interesting.

This, along with coordinated efforts by both the NRA and CRPA, might be interesting after the primary. It would be somewhat amazing to have a gubernatorial election in California in which neither candidate offered a concrete position on gun rights.

[bwiese]

i am doing a write in.........bwiese for governor

Please, no. I don't want the job even if I could win.

[wildhawker]

i am doing a write in.........bwiese for governor

No way. Can you imagine the budget line item for steak, er, bovine research we'd have in such a case?

[bigstick61]

Definitely voting for Poizner in the primaries. I'd really like to see him beat Whitman. If he does pull off a victory, which as of the latest polling seems very possible, I will definitely vote for him over Brown in the general, and according to Rasmussen, he is polling right now within one point of Brown, and is actully doing better than Whitman, which is a reversal of how things had been trending. Given all of the other issues in California and given Brown's stances and beliefs on all other issues, there is no way I could vote for him in good conscience, not over the possibility that he might be slightly beneficial on RKBA issues. I think Poizner at worst would be rather neutral rather than harmful. At best he could actually do some good. On the other issues I think he is way better than Brown.

[IPSICK]

For those of you seeing more taxes and more government, I think the realities of the economy will not make this possible. With the reduced state and local tax revenues due to the housing market and unemployment, we are unavoidably looking at tax increases and less government. I know it may sound illogical but again there is less overall tax revenue and it is exceedingly difficult to just eliminate government jobs and programs for various reasons. Again much of these problems lie with the legislators who are 70+% liberal in spending and anti-gun. The governor can exercise only so much control in legislatively mandated spending but he/she does have the power to veto new anti-gun laws. This makes it a little more difficult to pass anti-gun laws. To make changes in spending and gun laws we need to clean house and not expect one position to be a catch all.

Jerry Brown may or may not be any better than what we've had so far but he has to be better than "conservative" Arnie. Do realize that the California bus has been broken even before Davis was governor and each of his successors inherited a busted car. At least while Brown is governor we can protect ourselves while we find ways to fix the bus.

[hasserl]

Should be irrelevant...

1. Tom McClintock's endorsement of Poizner is just internal party
machine politics, and has relatively little to do with ideology, etc.
Hell, it could be for Poizner's campaign staff to find landing zones
after campaign closes.

2. This endorsement couldn't have much to do with gunrights since
I have no information McClintock has done anything to really drive or
carry achievable gun bills forward. McClintock indeed talks a good
gun game, but is merely a reliable "No" vote on bad gun bills.

Another example of you blowing off endorsements for Poizner. You are such a hack it's incredible anyone even listens to you at all.

[bwiese]

Another example of you blowing off endorsements for Poizner. You are such a hack it's incredible anyone even listens to you at all.

What I stated is absolute truth.

McClintock's supporting "non-Meg". It could be Joe Palooka, just as long as it's not Meg.

Yes, I don't like Poizner because he was anti-NRA and is now is trying to buddy up to every gunnie he sees.
I have equal dislike for Meg.

Someday the Republicans will figure out their statewide problems and then they'll get a real candidate - one who's pro-gun - that works his way up system and is not someone coming in from outside channels. But CA R's are gonna have to get rid of that "family values" crap, it alienates a lotta swing votes.

And call me when Tom McClintock has done something positive for gunrights besides vote "No" on bad gun bills.
Funny how he talks a good game but doesn't come thru afterwards.

It's fine if Tom McC wants to front for Poizner (or whoever's non-Meg). I just don't want folks inferring any real pro-gun message from it.

[luvtolean]

Jerry Brown is a socially liberal, fiscally conservative, pro-gun candidate. Yes he's strange, just as that platform is strange. (sadly)

The party he's representing doesn't matter...actually that's probably a good thing too for those that can put down their politics for a second and think.

My personal biggest concerns at state level politics being a bloated, overpaid bureaucracy, ridiculous budget, and screwed up gun rights, this election is a no-brainer...