Pro gun voters guide - Please share your inputs - see post #49

[Meplat]

Fox news just reported that Poisner has pulled ahead of Whitman in the polls.

[Mikeb]

So who do you guys like for AG?
Mike

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Primaries are party business. People outside of the party should have no say in the party nominees.

Which is exactly what Proposition 14 will attempt to address. Allow for one primary ballot for everyone, non-partisan. Vote for the candidate that you want to show up in the general election, and vote for them when the time comes.

Party-line thinking only encourages radicalism and non-compromise, especially in this broken state.

Another reason why I'm totally for Prop 14 is because every politician, major political party (R or D), interest group, and union is against it, which must mean it's good for the people to allow for more open election procedures.

[Window_Seat]

Poizner is better than Whitman, but it's still unclear whether he supports CCW SI or not, and that is the largest issue on the biggest front burner:

supporter of the Second Amendment and opposes any attempts to chip away at the right that every Californian has to keep and bear arms. Steve believes that the Founders of the Constitution were crystal clear when establishing that people have the right to own guns for both recreational and defensive purposes. Steve opposes any new gun laws and will closely examine existing gun laws

The word "support" is more (to me) of a code word for "supporting" gun control, and promising not to support more gun control as Whitman has admitted. Poizner has said he "opposes any new gun laws and will closely examine existing gun laws." What are "gun laws" to him? Gun laws to him could be anything furthering rights, and not just necessarily restricting rights, so his explanation is too ambiguous. I just got off the phone with his office, and they actually confirmed to me this:

He will oppose any (ANY) new gun laws.

I asked if he will support "PRO Gun Rights" legislation, and she said she didn't know. I asked for them to clarify this, and I sent him this email:

Dear Mr. Poizner

I am aware that you support the 2nd Amendment, and will oppose any new "gun laws". Does this mean you will oppose even "Pro gun rights" legislation?

Examples of pro-gun rights legislation are measures that make it mandatory for a Sheriff or Chief Law Enforcement Officer in California to issue concealed firearm(s) licenses to individuals if they are qualified law-abiding & responsible citizens of the State of California (Shall Issue Carry Concealed Weapon License or CCW). One such measure was AB-357 introduced by Assemblymember Steve Knight.

Other examples of pro gun rights legislation are repealing regulations restricting the type of handguns one can purchase, and allowing law-abiding & responsible citizens to purchase & receive handguns & long guns the same day rather than waiting 10 days.

I am aware that you will work to repeal AB-962 as well, but that is just one of far too many unnecessary & failed gun control policies that need to be reversed.

The Calguns Foundation, The NRA, the California Rifle & Pistol Association, The Gun Owners of America, The Second Amendment Foundation, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, The Pink Pistols of San Francisco, and many other fine gun rights organizations have a tremendously combined, lightning fast growing membership base & constituency which could ultimately define the outcome of the November Election.

We know where Ms. Whitman stands on this issue, but we are currently not clear where you stand on these issues, which are extremely important in California right now, so please clarify your position on the above points as soon as possible so we can all agree to make a determination on who ultimately goes to Sacramento.

Sincerely,
...

Erik.

[F12517]

PROP 16 - 2/3 voter approval requirement for local public electricity providers
Yes per GrizzlyGuy at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...5&postcount=53



Turby

You DO realize that prop 16 is being bought and paid for by PG&E?!?!?!
As a PG&E rate payer, I see nothing good coming of this. Last night they were all over the news asking for ANOTHER rate increase and have many more planned for the next several years. I wish we had SMUD in Placer County. http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opini...ehind-prop.-16

[F12517]

Yes on 16, as it adds another constraint on government power. Government power is responsible for our idiotic gun laws.

I did a series of articles on Prop 16 on my blog, and the leader of the opposition to Prop 16 (John Geesman) stopped by for some friendly debate. My argument and his are included in this series:

California Proposition 16 - Who Controls the Power?

Who Controls the Power? – John Geesman of GreenEnergyWar.com Responds

California Proposition 16 – Opponents Falsely Claim "A Constitutional Iron Curtain"

California Proposition 16 – SF Ignores the Will of the People, Rushes Ahead with Municipal Power

Your links are not working (at least for me). And I'll ask you to go back and follow the money. Prop 16 is being bought and paid for solely by PG&E. Normally, I am very much in favor of limiting government power, but not in this case, not at the expense of PROTECTING PG&E! Ask yourself, why does PG&E want this? What's in it for them? Why are SMUD rates so much lower than PG&E?

[Super Spy]

Prop 16 makes it darn near impossible for a small business to sell electricity locally and only helps PG&E maintain their monopoly. If you support an OPEN market vote no on 16.

Be careful on propositions as only big money can even get these on the ballot. I tend to vote NO if I have any doubt. Most of these propositions won't help the little guy at all.

[GrizzlyGuy]

You DO realize that prop 16 is being bought and paid for by PG&E?!?!?!
As a PG&E rate payer, I see nothing good coming of this. Last night they were all over the news asking for ANOTHER rate increase and have many more planned for the next several years. I wish we had SMUD in Placer County. http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opini...ehind-prop.-16

Yes, I knew that. Did you know that by law, it is the government that sets your rates and not PG&E? Click here, I walk the reader through why that is, starting with the CA Constitution and working down through the relevant section of the CA public utilities code.

If you don't like rate increases, then why would you want SMUD? Their rates are increasing as well:

...Tracy said Thursday that SMUD is raising its rates for several reasons, some of which are falling revenues, hikes in healthcare expenses, and increasing prices for renewable energy....

[huck]

I voted NO on 16 - just because I read PG&E has spent over $28 million on the YES campaign. It can't be a good thing.

There are no 2A implications, however.

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Anyone in Santa Barbara have a good write-in candidate for the sheriff's position? The incumbent Bill Brown is anti-CCW, and if possible, I'd like my write-in to count for something rather than putting in "Ash Ketchum".

[Meplat]

[QUOTE=Window_Seat;4345330]Poizner is better than Whitman, but it's still unclear whether he supports CCW SI or not, and that is the largest issue on the biggest front burner:

No candidate has indorsed CCW SI and will not. Poizner & Brown are the best bets. Brown being an eco-freak who will not even blink at destroying our economy in the name of global warming, I prefer Poizner.

We (when I say we I mean me and my crew) were prevented from controlling a distractive pest two years ago by the tree huggers. It cost California's economy $20,000,000 dollars. People at the bottom of the food chain starved because of it. That is the problem with Brown, but I'll still vote Brown over Whitman. The bill of rights can not be compromised.

[berto]

I'm voting NO on 16 because they won't reveal how they got my email address. I have a few ideas but i never it gave it to them.

[Meplat]

I don't trust PG&E, I don't trust the government. No! is a defensive vote.

[an actual gun]

13 - yes
14 - no
15 - no
16 - no
17 - no

Jerry Brown for governor.

I'm an independent voter so I'm gonna request a Dem ballot to vote for JB. I'm still floating my thoughts on other candidates, but the thing is I don't care for many of the Democrats running. It's basically, what, about 2 weeks until the election so I'm going to do crunch time on my decisions and vote for the best possible Democrats in the primaries. When the general election rolls around, that's when I'm gonna have to get especially serious about candidates.

In the mean time, for any other Jerry Brown primary voters who are poking through this Dem ballot, if you have any suggestions on who the best of these candidates are for gun rights (I know) please speak up.

[Turbinator]

You DO realize that prop 16 is being bought and paid for by PG&E?!?!?!
As a PG&E rate payer, I see nothing good coming of this. Last night they were all over the news asking for ANOTHER rate increase and have many more planned for the next several years. I wish we had SMUD in Placer County. http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opini...ehind-prop.-16

No - I didn't know that. So you say NO on PROP 16 then?

Turby