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  • 96232
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 70

    Firearm transport question?

    So, What are the options for transoprting a firearm in a hatchback car with no enclosed trunk? Can you still do it, just prohibited of travel within 1000 feet of a school? Can you store ammo in the car without having to put it in the glovebox?

    Thanks
  • #2
    berto
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 7723

    Unloaded in a locked container. Ammo is fine anywhere but in the firearm.
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    • #3
      Cokebottle
      Seņor Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2009
      • 32373

      What Berto says is true.

      Sounds like you've been fed some Turner's FUD

      Did they also tell you that the DOJ trigger lock must be installed at all times when transporting or storing?
      Here's a clue... the DOJ trigger locks make awesome motorcycle helmet locks
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      • #4
        oldyeller
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 1489

        Do long guns need to be in a locked container?
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        • #5
          Cokebottle
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          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Originally posted by oldyeller
          Do long guns need to be in a locked container?
          Not under California law, but the Federal "Gun Free School Zone" law does not distinguish between "concealable" and long guns.
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #6
            CSDGuy
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 3763

            It is because the Federal Gun Free School Zone Act does not distinguish between long and concealable firearms, that the safest method of transport is to secure firearms in their own lockable container, unloaded per People v. Clark. A vehicle trunk may be considered a locked container, but it can not be accessible from the passenger compartment.

            As long as you do NOT cross any such school zones, it's technically legal, but not a good idea, to have the firearm out in the open, unloaded...

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            • #7
              stix213
              AKA: Joe Censored
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              If you aren't driving in a school zone your long guns can just be thrown in your hatchback unloaded with full mags sitting all around in your car

              If you do drive within a school zone they need to be locked up in a case unloaded, or locking gun rack. Best recommended way to transport really.

              When I go shooting I have a route I drive that avoids school zones so I don't have to bother locking up the long guns, but if you don't want to do that just lock them up in a similar way you have to lock up hand guns. Its a good idea to not have your guns visible from outside your car anyways for various reasons (I would assume you will be more likely to get pulled over for that crack in your windshield with an open AR pressed up against your real window for example)
              Last edited by stix213; 04-30-2010, 8:44 PM.

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              • #8
                96232
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 70

                So I need a locking box for the rifle to be in a hatchback driven within a school zone I take it. IDK how most hatchbacks are but I know some have the "hatch area" as part of the passanger compartment, a.k.a there is no barrier and is easily accesable from the back seat.

                Another question, folding back seats - do those count as "easily accesable to the trunk area" and are disqualified as a locking container?

                Thanks for the info

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                • #9
                  Decoligny
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 10615

                  Originally posted by 96232
                  So I need a locking box for the rifle to be in a hatchback driven within a school zone I take it. IDK how most hatchbacks are but I know some have the "hatch area" as part of the passanger compartment, a.k.a there is no barrier and is easily accesable from the back seat.

                  Another question, folding back seats - do those count as "easily accesable to the trunk area" and are disqualified as a locking container?

                  Thanks for the info
                  If the folding back seat doesn't require a key or combination to unlock it to get into the trunk, it counts as being accessable, and the trunk would not be a locking container.
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                  • #10
                    ZombieHunter90
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 106

                    Is a long-barreled shotgun considered a long-gun? I'm going shooting tomorrow and I only have a soft-case for my Mossberg (no lock). What's the legality of transporting that in a Chevy Trailblazer that has no trunk compartment?

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                    • #11
                      lorax3
                      Super Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 4633

                      Originally posted by ZombieHunter90
                      What's the legality of transporting that in a Chevy Trailblazer that has no trunk compartment?
                      Same answer as OP.

                      If you are transporting a longarm CA law exempts you from the state school zone regulations. 626.9

                      Federal law would dictate that you would either need to have your shotgun in a locked container or in a locked firearms rack in your vehicle. 18 USC 922(q) *Note that Federal law makes no mention of trunks as examples of locked containers, this is only seen in CA PC 12025, 6269, and maybe a few other sections.

                      Since you are talking about a shotgun or firearm with a barrel > 16" concealment is not an issue. 12025

                      You would of course need to keep it unloaded. 12031
                      You think you know, but you have no idea.

                      The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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                      • #12
                        ZombieHunter90
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 106

                        Thanks man! Cheers.

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