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  • #31
    GoodEyeSniper
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 812

    Originally posted by Mitch
    Historically, that has been true. But since we are all opposed to brainless prohibitions that cause more problems than they solve (and don't work anyway, like all prohibitions), we certainly have common cause.

    We must all hang together or most assuredly we shall hang separately.
    Exactly. The anti legal MJ people don't have a leg to stand on other than "Damn hippy stoners". I'm sorry, just because one guy on here didn't get addicted to his pain meds, doesn't somehow prove his superiority over medical MJ users. The facts are plain and simple, most LEGAL painkillers are much more harmful than MJ can ever be. Especially if you use MJ responsibly, AKA: humidifier.

    You can use both types of drugs responsibly and irresponsibly. However, the people who use prescription meds irresponsibly are much more likely to become dangerous to others or themselves.

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    • #32
      nicki
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 4208

      Observation

      Generally how often do we get reporters being openly supportive of the "RKBA".

      She didn't see the guy as a "GUN NUT". What she saw was a person who had a health condition, was using marijuana for medical purposes which my gut tells me she supports and the way she reported it was that his rights were being violated because of his medical choices.

      She did her homework in that she went to both the state and Feds. Noticed how Jerry Brown's office responded.

      This video was sent to me by someone very high up in NORML and many of their people personally support our right to keep and bear arms.

      Of course they have to deal with people who support ending the POT prohbition, yet support gun prohibition.

      Obama has said that he is leaving medical marijuana users alone in states that have passed medical marijuana.

      If someone loses a "fundamental right" for using "medical marijuana", to me, that is not being left alone.

      I would like to see what Obama would say if pressed on this issue, because I have a gut feeling that many people who have prop 215 cards are gun owners also.

      There have already been several cases of people defending their "homegrown crops" in their homes from burgulars with guns.

      In Oregon their Supreme court ordered a sheriff to issue a ccw permit to someone who had a medical marijuana card. The sheriff complained that he was complying with Fed law at the time.

      Something to consider, what if a state law was passed that said if you are an alcohol user you can't buy guns and they define a chronic alcohol user as someone who has drank 1 beer in the last 30 days as a chronic alcohol user, how many of us would be able to buy guns.

      And such a law could be passed because even though the 18th amendment was repealed, it still allowed the states to regulate alcohol consumption.

      We are going to see another 10th amendment Commerce Case hit the Federal courts on Marijuana after Californians vote to LEGALIZE pot this november.

      My gut tells me that Jerry Brown will defend Californians rights against the Federal government on this issue.

      The reality is the illegally of Marijuana is what is holding up "Industrial hemp" in this country, industrial hemp would be a "green cash crop" that could play a major role in jumpstarting our economy.

      Farmers don't want to risk growing hemp that might yield flowers whose THC content may be too high. An American hemp industry will rapidly grow once farmers aren't worried about getting busted for growing pot.

      I could see a annual 500 to 1 trillion dollar hemp economy within a few short years because Hemp would replace would provide enviromentally sound replacements for many toxic products.

      The public supports hemp industrialization. When people put it together that they have to choose between hemp industrialization or continuing the Pot prohibition, I believe most are going to dump the Pot prohibition.

      I realize we have a few OPEC supporters on this board and the idea of Hemp replacing many oil based products across the US economy would cut off money.

      Energy self reliance would mean that maybe we wouldn't have to be in the middle east, we could tell OPEC nations what they could do with their oil.

      Hemp would be a major cash crop in California and if the Feds are blocking things, a governor could tell the people that it is the Federal government's policies that are bankrupting the state.

      Of course the Feds invalidating prop 94 didn't help things either

      The arguements that the Feds have no jurisdiction on California Marijuana will be the same ones our side would use to justify that the feds have no jurisdiction on say "made in Montana Guns".

      I realize many of you are against this, but right now last poll I saw showed 58 percent of Californians will vote to legalize POT. Nationwide legalization just crossed the 50 percent threshold.

      A friend of mine looked into Marinol since she has Parkinson's, the discounted price since she is on disablity and limited income(under 1k per month) is roughly 700 dollars a month.

      It is easy to support the rights of things you like, the hard thing is to support the rights of things you disagree with yet that is what we must do if we are to support freedom.

      By the tone of what some of you have written, it appears that you actually "HATE" various groups of people.

      Personally I don't hate anyone, but I do hate what some people promote.

      We got a "postive news" story on guns and a reporter acknowledging and actually fighting for someone' right to keep and bear arms, to me this is a significant victory.


      Nicki

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      • #33
        CSDGuy
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 3763

        Would anyone advocate for driving while on MJ or shooting while on MJ? The problem with smoked MJ is that you really can't, and don't, know the actual THC dose you're getting. You can guess... But you don't know for certain. Marinol is made of specific, known doses of THC. This is the only known, active ingredient of MJ...

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        • #34
          artherd
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 5038

          The California AG was the wrong person to take this to - the US Attorney's office needs to opine.

          Watch this space.
          - Ben Cannon.
          Chairman, CEO -
          CoFounder - Postings are my own, and are not formal positions of any other entity, or legal advice.

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          • #35
            Mulay El Raisuli
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 3613

            Originally posted by nicki
            We got a "postive news" story on guns and a reporter acknowledging and actually fighting for someone' right to keep and bear arms, to me this is a significant victory.


            Nicki

            I agree completely with all that you wrote, but I repeated this part because it is ESPECIALLY good news.


            The Raisuli
            "Ignorance is a steep hill with perilous rocks at the bottom"

            WTB: 9mm cylinder for Taurus Mod. 85

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            • #36
              gvbsat
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 1003

              I have a question;

              If he marked "yes" on the form, isn't he saying he is "addicted" and that right there would make him exempt from purchasing a gun? I mean, that is what the FEDs are asking right?

              Now I agree with Nicki. My opinion is MJ should indeed be legal, on a Federal level. Regulated the same way alcohol is. It would bring SO MUCH REVENUE to all states. It would also stop grow houses from ruining peoples houses. But... going back to the answering yes or no, under fed law, you answer yes, you cannot purchase. It is close to the same issue we here in CA , just reversed. We want our 2nd ad recognized by the state, and on the other issue, most of us, or some of us, want to see the states law recognized by the Fed. as far as legalizing, or "decriminalizing" MJ.

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              • #37
                GrizzlyGuy
                Gun Runner to The Stars
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • May 2009
                • 5468

                Originally posted by gvbsat
                I have a question;

                If he marked "yes" on the form, isn't he saying he is "addicted" and that right there would make him exempt from purchasing a gun? I mean, that is what the FEDs are asking right?
                Not necessarily addicted, just an "unlawful user" (which one would be due to the federal prohibition of MJ). The question from the form:

                Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
                Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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                • #38
                  gvbsat
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1003

                  Originally posted by GrizzlyGuy
                  Not necessarily addicted, just an "unlawful user" (which one would be due to the federal prohibition of MJ). The question from the form:
                  What a brain miss-fire. Yeah, I get it. Thanks for pointing the obvious out.

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                  • #39
                    nat
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 709

                    Originally posted by Purple K
                    Medical marijuana... The BIG lie. True medical marijuana is available in tablet form as Marinol in 2.5, 5 and 10mg dosages. The veteran claims he's smoking pot to relieve his hip pain, there are much better ways to manage pain. It's a scam! Remember, originally is was supposed to help glaucoma patients, then it was an appetite enhancement. Now you can get it to treat your ingrown toe-nail. Several guys from work went to the "Doctor" recommended by the place that sells the pot and miraculously... they all got prescriptions, even though there was nothing wrong with them. GEEZ!!!
                    Spoken by somebody who has no clue what they are talking about.

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                    • #40
                      BigBronco also not a Cabinetguy
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 7062

                      Now lets remember he is a Veteran. I will thank him for his service to our country and our freedom. The fact that he had trouble with the question on the form, tells me he has not rotted his brain with the "Evil weed". He even appears to grow his own. So after serving his county he has turned to botany as a hobby. Good for him! His crop, giving him the benefit of the doubt is probably not being sold illegally to school kids. This crop has a definite street value. I think he should be allowed not only a gun but be given a CCW as well, if for no other reason that now after he is been shown by the film at 11 types, he is now a target and needs a gun more than ever to protect himself.
                      "Life is a long song" Jethro Tull

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                      • #41
                        CABilly
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1613

                        Any depressant: alcohol

                        Any stimulant: caffeine

                        There are two substances right there that would probably preclude at least 70% of people from DROSing a gun (all statistics in this post are made up).

                        Better think twice before that 2nd or 3rd cuppa joe while you're chugging along at the office.
                        Don't feed the cannibals.

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