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how would you handle traffic stop while UOCing?
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I agree and think it may turn out to be one hell of a win for RKBA. It's just nuts that you have to know something is there that is blocks away and obscured by buildings.sigpicTake not lightly liberty
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Belt holsters being actually referred to in the PC should be OK right? I mean where does it say the gun has to be visible from 360 degrees?
No, see here: How do I legally transport a handgun?
Ammo need not be stored separately. The locked container requirement only applies if either of these is true:
1) You are traveling through Gun Free School Zones
2) You intend to conceal the gun in the car (i.e. you intend to violate 12025). If it is sitting on the passenger seat in plain view, or in your belt holster (for example) it doesn't need to be locked up.sigpicTake not lightly liberty
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And those recordings have a disturbing way of getting lost when they go against the department.
No offence, but i have no idea where you are getting your information. But you could not be more wrong.
Most agencies today have everything the cops do on video and voice recording. They know they are being recorded by their own department. So they do not do anything to put them selves in a bad situation.
So you can run down to the department and beat your chest and yell and scream all you want. LEO's know there are lots of folks out there that want to sue them and their department and find their pot of gold at the end of the LEO rainbow. Fact of the matter is, most complaints are unfounded. And the more complaints you make, the more obvious your intentions become.sigpicTake not lightly liberty
To have it you must live it
And like love, don't you see
To keep it you must give it
"I will talk with you no more.
I will go now, and fight you." (Red Cloud)Comment
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(f) Firearms carried openly in belt holsters are not concealed within the meaning of this section.
Nowhere in 12025 does it say that the gun has to be visible from 360 degrees. Unless the legislature presumes that LEOs have X-ray vision, there will always be a viewing angle from which they will not be able to see the gun. Our legislators are misguided, but they aren't that wacky.Comment
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