Own NFA items out of state

[Frijolito1988]

So I was just thinking about this today. Is there anyway possible me, as a CA resident. Own NFA stuff in another state eventhough im only a CA resident ? What i was thinking about is, are there any storage places in other states that allow the storage of NFA items. Persay a bonded storage place or warehouse that specializes in this. Would having an NFA trust , facilitate this ?

My way of thinking is, purchase what ever NFA thing, pay the tax stamp , and put that bonded storage place as the place where the stuff will be kept , and be legal ?

Only reason I think this may not be legal is because if it where....ALOT of people will be doing this and would be a well known option.

[joe_sun]

Ken Lunde says he does it

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=3430756&postcount=55

[davescz]

whats NFA mean?

[Elucidus]

National Firearms Act - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Basically items that require excise taxes to purchase - like silencers, automatic weapons, etc.

[Librarian]

However, that won't work for NFA firearms.

Fedlaw requires that interstate purchases - which is what is contemplated here, a CA resident buying outside of CA - must follow the rules of the state of residence of the buyer.

See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...rms_Interstate

[Frijolito1988]

However, that won't work for NFA firearms.

Fedlaw requires that interstate purchases - which is what is contemplated here, a CA resident buying outside of CA - must follow the rules of the state of residence of the buyer.

See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...rms_Interstate

Ok , so im triying to read the legal writting, I know I cannot bring back these things to CA, these will stay in what ever state they are legal in. In which was thinking, go to AZ, get the NFA items out of storage, shoot at the local range with in AZ, then return the items to storage, and me come back to CA.

When you say that wont work for NFA Firearms, does this mean only suppresors ?

[CAL.BAR]

Basically, you can't buy out of state what you can't have in your state of residence. Even if you keep the thing in another state.

[Frijolito1988]

Basically, you can't buy out of state what you can't have in your state of residence. Even if you keep the thing in another state.

Gotcha, that blows. I think the only way " around " this, is to have property in what ever state you want to the NFA stuff and use that address.

[dantodd]

Basically, you can't buy out of state what you can't have in your state of residence. Even if you keep the thing in another state.

This is true only for firearms. As others have pointed out there is nothing that keeps you from acquiring non-firearms out of state. Things such as suppressors and large capacity magazines are perfectly acceptable to purchase and keep out of state. You can purchase firearms out of state as well but you need a resident entity or follow all the laws of both the state in which you purchase the firearm and the state of residency of the entity making the purchase. The most common entity is a trust though a corporation would work also.

[Para45]

Yeah you'd have to get residency in another state long enough to physically acquire the NFA items then you could leave them with family or in secure storage, go back to California and be good to go.

[steadyrock]

However, that won't work for NFA firearms.

Fedlaw requires that interstate purchases - which is what is contemplated here, a CA resident buying outside of CA - must follow the rules of the state of residence of the buyer.

See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...rms_Interstate

What about corporations? Given that they are legal entities and can own property, would it be possible for him to form a corporation out of state with himself as an officer, and purchase/store the NFA firearms out of state in his corporation's name?

[adamsreeftank]

Start a corporation with a trusted family memeber in an NFA friendly state. The corp applies for the tax stamps, you pay for the items, and they are transferred to the corp. They generally must stay in the state where they are registered.

[IGOTDIRT4U]

Did I ever mention my mother lives in Ohio?!?

[rero360]

From what I've heard is starting a trust or LLC in another state, say Arizona or the like and then just store the items in that state, I thought about it when I was living in NY, starting a trust in PA and then getting a suppressor and keeping it in a security deposit box at a bank in PA. If I lived closer to the border I'd consider it now as well.

[B Strong]

Unless you have legit residency in a state that allows NFA possession by individuals, it's a no-go.

Overnight stays in a hotel don't count, mail-drops don't count, a relative's home may or may not work, depending on your actual residence in that home.

The corporate ownership plan is workable on one level, but calls for a whole different level of complication as to staying legal wrt the requirements of the state where the corporation is chartered.