Riverside County Sheriff issues CCW Permits

[hoffman259]

I'm glad I found this thread. I recently moved to Riverside County after being in OC for a long time and was wondering his stance on CCW permits. I think I am going to be applying.

On a side note, i have seen some signs around town for another sheriff running, do we have any info on him and his stance on CCW.

[cindynles]

No, it's that people are refusing to apply for various different reasons. The chief among them is "I don't want to spend 200+ and have it denied for lack of good cause".

That is no longer happening. Start applying to his office with just the $20+ risk. If actually denying most of the applications, then that needs to reflected in the statistics. People are refusing to apply, period, and that's actually HURTING US as a group because people would rather snipe at something and complain than actually apply. Just $20, folks. That's all your risking.

So just to clarify, anyone submitting an application should still have:

"Convincing evidence of a clear and present danger to life, or of great bodily harm to the applicant, his/her spouse, or dependent child, which cannot be adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources, and which danger cannot be reasonably avoided by alternative measures, and which danger would be significantly mitigated by the applicant's carrying of a concealed firearm."

Sheriff Sniff has not gone the way of Kern County and will not issue for personal protection has he? Its great to see that progress is being made, but it doesn't really help most of us.

[H Paul Payne]

On a side note, i have seen some signs around town for another sheriff running, do we have any info on him and his stance on CCW.

When Frank Robles was running (unsuccessfully) for Riverside County Sheriff in 1994 against Larry Smith and Paul Benoit, he was anti-CCW and somewhat anti-gun. In fact, he didn't get the NRA endorsement then. Paul Benoit did.

I am told that he now claims to be more pro-gun and somewhat pro-CCW.

NOPE!!! NOT BUYING IT!!!

As a long-time resident of Riverside County and an employee of the NRA, why would I want to change from the current sheriff who is good on the Second Amendment issue AND has EARNED the NRA endorsement???

My family and friends will be voting for the NRA endorsed candidate, Sheriff Stan Sniff!!! You should too!!!

Paul

[Gray Peterson]

Here is a link to the application http://www.riversidesheriff.org/pdf/ccw-rso.pdf

Pages 33-35 of the pdf. Notice that they are not numbered and are not part of the state application. Last time I was in their office, I asked about it and they were unaware that they can't go further than what the state asks for.

I see the whole application from Riverside has been redone, so they must still think it is OK.

Issue is being fixed now.

[SDI]

Issue is being fixed now.

Yes it is thanks to you. Got off the phone this afternoon with Sgt. Whiting about a separate issue and he told me about the all the changes. A couple of other surprises coming for Riverside residents.

[383green]

A couple of other surprises coming for Riverside residents.

You now have my full attention!

[SDI]

You might want to own 3 CCW guns

[383green]

You might want to own 3 CCW guns

Excellent! Assuming I get approved, I'd like to include my full-size Colt M1991A1 on the permit just on principle, even though I'd have to gain a couple hundred pounds before it could be considered concealable.

[dantodd]

Is she single?

She? You don't know Gray very well do you?

[lawaia]

You might want to own 3 CCW guns

Yeah, baby!

[Glock22Fan]

She? You don't know Gray very well do you?

To be fair, Gray did originally say he had a pretty contact at Riverside.

Even my wife comments that some girls/women are pretty.

And I'm sure Mark knew that that wasn't really what Gray meant anyway.

[bosshog69]

All,

I just got off the phone with Lt. Robert Peebles, who is the head of the CCW unit (and signs the CCW licenses) for the Riverside County Sheriff's Department.

After about 3 months of trading emails back and forth about the fee policy of RCSO and it's lack of compliance with PC12054, I am pleased to announce, effective 5/24/2010, the Riverside County Sheriff's Office will accept CCW applications full in compliance with PC12054, and will no longer "front-load" fees. Here is how it will work:

1) Turn in a CCW application and payment for $20 (same payment methods as before, not sure what these are). If your good cause at this point is completely insufficient, your application will be denied (and you will not be out the 200+ as before).

2) You will be called for the interview (this was part of the process before), to clarify your good cause. Assuming your clear at this point, or you admit to be convicted of a DV Misdemeanor or a felony or something, you will be asked for a 95 dollar payment for the DOJ check. If it doesn't clear at that point (background check reveals you to be illegal to possess a firearm or possess a CCW), you are out just $105.

3) Once this clears, you can go get your training.

4) At this point, once everything is done, you bring in a payment of $80 once you're issued the license.

So folks, if you're afraid of losing hundreds of dollars in fees if you are denied for "lack of good cause", there is no longer a reason to be afraid of this fact. The new CCW-RSO.pdf policy manual with these changes is in the process of being posted and may be the middle of next week before it is posted, but I have been assured that starting Monday, the process above will be followed.

This is a result of a lot of research and a lot of work, and done with Gene Hoffman's assistance to me since he clarified some of the finer points of PC12054 for me (in terms of CPI increases for the DOJ fee).

If you think you have good cause but were afraid to apply due being afraid of losing a bunch of money due to up front fees, get your payment of $20 and apply now.

So i the deputy located at the Davis location in Riverside and he said that i must bring in two payments all in one swoop. I set up my interview however he said i need to bring a payment of $20 AND $95 and it all non refundable? That seems a little diffrent from what you are saying?

[jpigeon]

Call the CCW unit. They chase as many people as they can away from the whole process...

[wildhawker]

So i the deputy located at the Davis location in Riverside and he said that i must bring in two payments all in one swoop. I set up my interview however he said i need to bring a payment of $20 AND $95 and it all non refundable? That seems a little diffrent from what you are saying?

For everything you need to know, see www.calgunsfoundation.org/carry and http://calgunsfoundation.org/resourc...y/9-carry.html.

-Brandon

[bosshog69]

I did, i called the phone number listed on the application 951.486.2856. The deputy answered as CCW unit! I'm not sure who is correct at this point.

Also are we required to fill out the extra 3 pages that are attached to the Riverside CCW application found on their site? Will we get pushback if we don't fill that out? http://www.riversidesheriff.org/firearms/ccw.asp