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  • BLD
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 447

    Selling C&Rs

    I've got a couple of C&R rifles that I'm thinking of selling to raise funds for another project. They were both bought from dealers, so they were DROSed upon purchase. If I sell them (most likely C&C PPT) is there anything I need to do to protect myself legally? Do you just ask for a copy of their DL or should you fill out a no longer in possession form? The new NLIP form seems to require some form of proof of a transaction...kinda difficult on a C&C PPT.

    New NLIP form http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/BOF4546NLIP0209.pdf

    What do you think?

    Also I sold a revolver to a fellow CGer a few months ago (PPT at a local FFL) should I try and get his info and complete a NLIP form?

    I never bought any of these with the intent to sell them, but as my taste grows, and room in the safe shrinks, I'm willing to let some of them go to pay for new toys

    Thanks.
    "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks." -- Thomas Jefferson
  • #2
    GrizzlyGuy
    Gun Runner to The Stars
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • May 2009
    • 5468

    I think your plan is sound. Filing the NLIP forms will help protect you from liability concerns if the people you sell/sold the guns to do something bad (or they get stolen from them, and thief does something bad).
    Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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    • #3
      Meety Peety
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 3216

      I thought because long arms aren't registered, theres no record of "who has it" so to speak. The DROS is a record of sale which is trashed after X amount of days and the background check is just that, not a registration process. Don't quote me on this, I'm just as unsure as the OP.. but this was the info I was given by several FFLs when I bought my first gun years ago. Can anyone confirm this?
      "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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      • #4
        BLD
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 447

        I know that long guns aren't registered by serial number, and that the records are supposed to be destroyed shortly after the sale. The problem I have with the NLIP form is that it seems to require you to send in a DOJ approved transaction form or wait until the dros paperwork gets to DOJ.

        Frankly I'm not that interested in any paperwork, but if I sell these rifles I want to CYA...or CMA.
        "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks." -- Thomas Jefferson

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        • #5
          hoffmang
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2006
          • 18448

          If the long gun is known to be over 50 years old it is simply cash and carry. That you DROSed them in the past means absolutely nothing beyond there being a 4473 at the FFL you bought them at with their serial number on them.

          Don't file the NLIP. Knowing DOJ competence they may try to come after you for doing something legal as they often don't even remember that there is a difference between long guns and handguns.

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          • #6
            NayaL8R
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 30

            "In no sense"

            Thanks for clearing that up Gene. Sometimes thinking you're doing right thing gets you in trouble.

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            • #7
              BLD
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 447

              Thanks Gene.
              "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks." -- Thomas Jefferson

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