This looks like not legal in California, or am I wrong?
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I gues this is not legal in Cali
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You would be correct.
Even with a locking magazine, that would be an SBR.- Rich
Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success. -
No, it's illegal here.
Short Barreled Rifle both federally and state
California Assault Weapon. Centerfire Semiauto less then 30", Pistol Grip, folding stock, +detachable magazine.
The Federal SBR could be permitted if the state law didn't make it nearly impossible to get the prerequisite permits. And then the Assault Weapon law to add insult to injury.
Even owning it (not assembling it) is Constructive Possession on the SBR laws. I suppose if you found a 16"+ barrel that brought the overall length over 30" (possibly fixing the stock to accomplish this), then fixed the magazine somehow, you could build it. But as I understand, you could NEVER make the pistol back into a pistol. It would then be a rifle and putting it back into the original configuration makes it an SBR.
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No, it's illegal here.
Short Barreled Rifle both federally and state
California Assault Weapon. Centerfire Semiauto less then 30", Pistol Grip, folding stock, +detachable magazine.
The Federal SBR could be permitted if the state law didn't make it nearly impossible to get the prerequisite permits. And then the Assault Weapon law to add insult to injury.
Even owning it (not assembling it) is Constructive Possession on the SBR laws. I suppose if you found a 16"+ barrel that brought the overall length over 30" (possibly fixing the stock to accomplish this), then fixed the magazine somehow, you could build it. But as I understand, you could NEVER make the pistol back into a pistol. It would then be a rifle and putting it back into the original configuration makes it an SBR.
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It appears to be ornamentation.[sarcasm] Thank God it's illegal, because it looks way more deadlier than a regular Glock.[/sarcasm]
Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat
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Not legal for mortals.
Legal for the few (In California) permitted to own it by state and federal law.The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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Somebody should tell the Israelis it's a bad idea to market anything here w/ "P.O.S" in the nameComment
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Illegal, but oh so nice."If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
--James Madison
'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792Comment
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God bless our lawmakers. All that plastic turned that harmless glock into a lethal kitten-killing child-orphaning monster. Thanks for saving us from ourselves!Comment
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30" under California AW laws for centerfire semi-auto.
You can have a 26" rimfire, bolt-action, or pump shotgun.
26" for SBR
30" for AW... and this is an AW classification that cannot be complied with using a fixed magazine.- Rich
Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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It looks too good. Unlike that Kriss super V from the other thread :P Remember if it looks cool, you can't have it. Besides, if this was legal anywhere, magpul could make their little folding gun....Comment
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