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  • Palmaris
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2009
    • 6038

    I gues this is not legal in Cali


    This looks like not legal in California, or am I wrong?
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  • #2
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    You would be correct.

    Even with a locking magazine, that would be an SBR.
    - Rich

    Originally posted by dantodd
    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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    • #3
      dragonbait1a
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 596

      No, it's illegal here.

      Short Barreled Rifle both federally and state
      California Assault Weapon. Centerfire Semiauto less then 30", Pistol Grip, folding stock, +detachable magazine.

      The Federal SBR could be permitted if the state law didn't make it nearly impossible to get the prerequisite permits. And then the Assault Weapon law to add insult to injury.

      Even owning it (not assembling it) is Constructive Possession on the SBR laws. I suppose if you found a 16"+ barrel that brought the overall length over 30" (possibly fixing the stock to accomplish this), then fixed the magazine somehow, you could build it. But as I understand, you could NEVER make the pistol back into a pistol. It would then be a rifle and putting it back into the original configuration makes it an SBR.

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        It's also not legal anywhere else in the USA, unless you have BATFE approval for a SBR.
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        • #5
          tuolumnejim
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2008
          • 10873

          Originally posted by dragonbait1a
          No, it's illegal here.

          Short Barreled Rifle both federally and state
          California Assault Weapon. Centerfire Semiauto less then 30", Pistol Grip, folding stock, +detachable magazine.

          The Federal SBR could be permitted if the state law didn't make it nearly impossible to get the prerequisite permits. And then the Assault Weapon law to add insult to injury.

          Even owning it (not assembling it) is Constructive Possession on the SBR laws. I suppose if you found a 16"+ barrel that brought the overall length over 30" (possibly fixing the stock to accomplish this), then fixed the magazine somehow, you could build it. But as I understand, you could NEVER make the pistol back into a pistol. It would then be a rifle and putting it back into the original configuration makes it an SBR.

          RGB
          Ok when did it go from 26" overall to 30"?
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          • #6
            CitaDeL
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2007
            • 5843

            It appears to be ornamentation.[sarcasm] Thank God it's illegal, because it looks way more deadlier than a regular Glock.[/sarcasm]



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            • #7
              zhyla
              Banned
              • Aug 2009
              • 2017

              Originally posted by CitaDeL
              It appears to be ornamentation.[sarcasm] Thank God it's illegal, because it looks way more deadlier than a regular Glock.[/sarcasm]
              You don't understand, this was "tested in battle" and "based on combat experience".

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              • #8
                elrcastor
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2009
                • 963

                Originally posted by tuolumnejim
                Ok when did it go from 26" overall to 30"?
                the federal min is 26" but ca is 30".
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                • #9
                  B Strong
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6367

                  Not legal for mortals.

                  Legal for the few (In California) permitted to own it by state and federal law.
                  The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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                  • #10
                    tombkeeper
                    Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 116

                    Somebody should tell the Israelis it's a bad idea to market anything here w/ "P.O.S" in the name

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                    • #11
                      woodey
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 913

                      Still , it's pretty Bad ***

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                      • #12
                        PatriotnMore
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 7068

                        Illegal, but oh so nice.
                        ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
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                        'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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                        • #13
                          The Director
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2769

                          God bless our lawmakers. All that plastic turned that harmless glock into a lethal kitten-killing child-orphaning monster. Thanks for saving us from ourselves!

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                          • #14
                            Cokebottle
                            Seņor Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 32373

                            Originally posted by tuolumnejim
                            Ok when did it go from 26" overall to 30"?
                            30" under California AW laws for centerfire semi-auto.
                            You can have a 26" rimfire, bolt-action, or pump shotgun.
                            26" for SBR
                            30" for AW... and this is an AW classification that cannot be complied with using a fixed magazine.
                            - Rich

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                            • #15
                              bigcalidave
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 4489

                              It looks too good. Unlike that Kriss super V from the other thread :P Remember if it looks cool, you can't have it. Besides, if this was legal anywhere, magpul could make their little folding gun.
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