Ran into a Sheriff to day asked ? about ca legal guns

[SJgunguy24]

a big idiot, he must chew tabacco and have confederate baseball hat

This is uncalled for, some of us tabacco chewing, confederate baseball hat wearing, gun shootin', flag waving, right wing rubes will be the first to lend you a hand.

To the OP, there is a respectful manner in which to open a LEO's eyes to the possibility that maybe he doesn't know all the laws.

Like Soidier 415 said, carry flowcharts with you and or get some of the CGN buisness cards. It's an easy way to get the info out there with out being to pushy.

[bodger]

Hand him the flow chart and then stand by for him to ask if he can search your vehicle for assault weapons.

[acolytes]

You'd be surprised at how many leo's don't know CA's gun laws. My best friend was LEO for years, and didn't know the gun laws. We had a long talk about it one day, and he was like "really? the gun laws in CA make no sense, it's rediculous." He was a very PRO 2A l.e.o.

[rod]

a big idiot, he must chew tabacco and have confederate baseball hat

You should be a little more careful on how you describe idiots. You wouldn't want to make us mad.

[Bugei]

Not as bad as all that

OP, you just got the new guy. If he stopped someone for having an AR in his car or out shooting somewhere, he'd call it in and someone would set him straight. It might be "eventually set him straight", but it wouldn't be like Berkeley or SF where no one will admit that the OLL rules exist.

I've been here 30 years and haven't had an ounce of trouble with Placer County Sheriff guys. CHP, now, is a different matter.

[7222 Hawker]

OP, you just got the new guy. If he stopped someone for having an AR in his car or out shooting somewhere, he'd call it in and someone would set him straight. It might be "eventually set him straight", but it wouldn't be like Berkeley or SF where no one will admit that the OLL rules exist.

I've been here 30 years and haven't had an ounce of trouble with Placer County Sheriff guys. CHP, now, is a different matter.

Funny you say that about CHP. Did you have a bad experience? I know for a fact that CHP in your area is well aware of the legality of the OLL. I have spoken with your Foresthill resident post officer personally about it.

[Grakken]

Why doesnt a senior LEO, who is also a member of this community put together a memo or sorts, like the Sacramento memo and distribute this to as many stations and LEO agencies as possible? isn't there some kind of rollcall/meeting held before every shift? Would seem to me to be a perfect time to stand up in front of the class and educate the whole shift at the same time.

Conversely, would CGF or other well to do calgun members print out a bunch of flowcharts to be passed around at said meetings? Surely that would be a good cause. Print out a bunch of flowcharts, pass them out to their fellow cops at their meetings. Nothing but win can come of this i think.

I understand cops can't possibly know all the laws but on this one, they should know what is out there! Am I being naive?

[dustoff31]

I ran into a placer county sheriff today while I was at work my co worker new this guy so he stoped to talk to him. I asked him if he ever came across any ca legal AR type guns he said he has not ran into anyone with one. and then tells me AR-15 type guns are ilegal in ca. so I say what about the ca legal AR-15 he says some were grandfatherd in a while back. I say no Im talking about the ones you can buy right now at the gun stores. he did not know anything about what I was talking about. so I said if you seen someone with an AR type gun would you just take it. he said probably no AR guns are legal in ca

Tim

OK, so which is it? Does the deputy think they are illegal or not?

[Jamez]

a big idiot, he must chew tabacco and have confederate baseball hat

HEY!!.....what's wrong with that :-(

[Dark Paladin]

OK, so which is it? Does the deputy think they are illegal or not?

I think this is what the OP meant to say. . . with correct punctuations. . .

he said probably, no AR guns are legal in ca

[johnthomas]

Cops are not attorneys, for the most part, like us, they talk amongst themselves and buy into the FUD other's tell them. That is why, we the learned, must teach the unknowing. If you have a black rifle, why not keep a flow chart in your range bag. I wonder if CAlGUN has sent one out to all police agencies in the state with a cover letter.
It wouldn't hurt. JT

[Lagduf]

yeah pretty much.

I did try to tell him there is a gun store TDS right down the street that sells these guns and that is mostly waht they sell is ARs and AK47s I dont think he wanted someone off the street telling him what the laws are Im not Bashing. it was just interesting to hear what he had to say. I have not bought an AR-15 yet just because of this I dont want to go throught the hassle of getting it back if it gets taken away

LOL, he would have been shocked when he walked in to TDS. CA Legal ARs, AKs, and all kinds of AR uppers and parts as far as the eye can see.

I'm in Placer County, I'll have to print out a couple more copies of the AW flowchart and the Sacramento training memo.

[Cokebottle]

I ran into a placer county sheriff today while I was at work my co worker new this guy so he stoped to talk to him. I asked him if he ever came across any ca legal AR type guns he said he has not ran into anyone with one. and then tells me AR-15 type guns are ilegal in ca. so I say what about the ca legal AR-15 he says some were grandfatherd in a while back. I say no Im talking about the ones you can buy right now at the gun stores. he did not know anything about what I was talking about. so I said if you seen someone with an AR type gun would you just take it. he said probably. No AR guns are legal in cal

Technically/legally, he's right... AR15s are Colt/Armalite and they are (for the most part, except the LE6940).

My "Calguns" lower, once completed, will not be an AR15.
It will be an AR15 pattern rifle, but technically and legally, it will be a Kaiser Defense .223/5.56NATO.

Same goes for referring to AK pattern rifles as AK47, AK74, RPK, etc....
Each of those names that are on "the list" are property of the companies that produced those guns.
Bill mentioned a month or so ago that it is extremely important that none of our AK-pattern rifles have the characters "AK47" stamped on the receiver.

[rromeo]

The key is "AR type" rifles. Types of rifles aren't illegal, just certain models.

[curtisfong]

I did try to tell him there is a gun store TDS right down the street that sells these guns and that is mostly waht they sell is ARs and AK47s

Why would you do that, when you could point him to a copy of the CalGuns AW ID Flowchart?