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Just me again, I'm having a fun debate with a good freind regarding the CA Cash&Carry gun law, he's adamant that one could not transfer a C&R without a FFL in between. He'll be bringing in his C&R Handbook and try to counter me by establishing
here's my reply, think it makes sense? I pointed out the definitions of antique firearms AND Curio&Relic, also established the CA Penal code that says PPT is legal (as depicted on the CA Attorney General's public FAQ page) Howd I do?:
the public FAQ page does not say this, and I'd believe it would be a very important fact to leave out if it's true.
Piggybacking on the Federal penal code 921(a)(16) of Title 18 I listed
US Code Title 27, p128 s178.11:
What is a Curio or Relic, ala Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) part 178, section 178.11
Curios or Relics: Firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of
the following categories:
(a) Firearms that were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;
(b) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
(c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.
with that federal code in existance applied to CA PC s12072(d) written on the CA Attorney General's public(meaning non-ffl civies) FAQ page $14
"Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.
Just me again, I'm having a fun debate with a good freind regarding the CA Cash&Carry gun law, he's adamant that one could not transfer a C&R without a FFL in between. He'll be bringing in his C&R Handbook and try to counter me by establishing
"curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement."
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>Only when purchased by a C&R license holder from a C&R or FFL license holder.
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>Only when purchased by a C&R license holder from a C&R or FFL license holder.
here's my reply, think it makes sense? I pointed out the definitions of antique firearms AND Curio&Relic, also established the CA Penal code that says PPT is legal (as depicted on the CA Attorney General's public FAQ page) Howd I do?:
the public FAQ page does not say this, and I'd believe it would be a very important fact to leave out if it's true.
Piggybacking on the Federal penal code 921(a)(16) of Title 18 I listed
US Code Title 27, p128 s178.11:
What is a Curio or Relic, ala Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) part 178, section 178.11
Curios or Relics: Firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of
the following categories:
(a) Firearms that were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;
(b) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
(c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.
with that federal code in existance applied to CA PC s12072(d) written on the CA Attorney General's public(meaning non-ffl civies) FAQ page $14
"Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.
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