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  • Steyr_223
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2002
    • 9480

    San Francisco Supervisor Carol Ruth Silver on guns

    Why don't we have more like her? I wonder if she posts here? Someone should invite her..



    Her 1977 election was part of a shift toward diversity on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors; she was described as "the board's first unwed mother."[6]

    She served three terms, through 1989.

    She is a member of Pink Pistols and a supporter of the 2nd Amendment.



    1985

    Jan. 11: San Francisco Supervisor Carol Ruth Silver wrote an article in a national publication that said a subway rider attacked by armed criminals "has every right to shoot in self-defense." Her views were disputed quickly by San Francisco officials, including Public Defender Jeff Brown, who said Silver's ideas could provoke "a domestic arms race." In an article that she and San Francisco civil rights attorney Don Kates wrote for the Wall Street Journal, Silver also said that excess use of force by police is "regularly whitewashed," and use of force by citizens is often more effective than police action. She said later in an interview that every citizen who feels threatened by crime should have a gun in his or her home or office, and that many San Franciscans should have guns because police will not protect them. "I don't like it," said Police Chief Con Murphy. Keeping guns at home "creates more problems than it solves. It creates a false sense of security." Silver, who keeps a pistol at home and carried a gun until last year, wrote the article after hearing about the subway vigilante who shot four youths in New York.
    Last edited by Steyr_223; 01-11-2010, 1:27 PM. Reason: missing guns in title
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    bwiese
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 27616

    We have good friends in unique places.

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    • #3
      GoodEyeSniper
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 812

      Originally posted by Steyr_223
      "I don't like it," said Police Chief Con Murphy. Keeping guns at home "creates more problems than it solves. It creates a false sense of security."
      Um.... And the police are what, if not a false sense of security???

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      • #4
        anthonyca
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2008
        • 6316

        Another example of one of our friends that would be shut out by some gun lovers. We need more people like her on our side.
        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

        Originally posted by Wherryj
        I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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        • #5
          Glock22Fan
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2006
          • 5752

          Jan. 11: San Francisco Supervisor Carol Ruth Silver wrote an article in a national publication that said a subway rider attacked by armed criminals "has every right to shoot in self-defense." Her views were disputed quickly by San Francisco officials, including Public Defender Jeff Brown, who said Silver's ideas could provoke "a domestic arms race."
          So, is Jeff Brown saying that "a subway rider attacked by armed criminals does not have any right to shoot in self-defense?"
          John -- bitter gun owner.

          All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
          I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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          • #6
            Nose Nuggets
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2008
            • 6801

            WAOW!

            "I don't like it," said Police Chief Con Murphy. Keeping guns at home "creates more problems than it solves. It creates a false sense of security."

            Sorry Chief Murphy, i cant hear you over all the irony.


            "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." -Thomas Jefferson

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            • #7
              Roadrunner
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 3898

              Well, this just turned my world upside down. But, then again, this is California.

              Thanks

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              • #8
                jdberger
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2005
                • 8944

                Oh...I don't know. She's probably a Democrat and just said those things because it was politically expedient....

                Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

                90% of winning is simply showing up.

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                • #9
                  nobody_special
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1041

                  I suspect the political climate wasn't quite this bad 25 years ago either.
                  Originally posted by Edmund G. Brown
                  There are certain rights that are not to be subject to popular votes, otherwise they are not fundamental rights. If every fundamental liberty can be stripped away by a majority vote, then it's not a fundamental liberty.
                  Originally posted by jeffyhog
                  When the governor vetoes a bill that would make it a felony to steal a gun, but signs a bill into law that makes it a felony not to register a gun you already legally own, you know something isn't right.

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                  • #10
                    jdberger
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8944

                    Originally posted by nobody_special
                    I suspect the political climate wasn't quite this bad 25 years ago either.
                    it was.....

                    (sorry I was looking for a link to the actual letter but I'm firewalled at work)
                    Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

                    90% of winning is simply showing up.

                    "Let's not lose sight of how much we reduced our carbon footprint by telecommuting this protest." 383green

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                    • #11
                      Gryff
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      • May 2006
                      • 12679

                      A friend of mine is SFPD SWAT. I keep asking him if they've moved over to airsoft for their primary weapons yet.

                      His normal response is, "Surprisingly not yet."
                      My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                      • #12
                        swhatb
                        Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 399

                        Originally posted by Steyr_223
                        Why don't we have more like her? I wonder if she posts here? Someone should invite her..



                        Her 1977 election was part of a shift toward diversity on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors; she was described as "the board's first unwed mother."[6]

                        She served three terms, through 1989.

                        She is a member of Pink Pistols and a supporter of the 2nd Amendment.



                        1985

                        Jan. 11: San Francisco Supervisor Carol Ruth Silver wrote an article in a national publication that said a subway rider attacked by armed criminals "has every right to shoot in self-defense." Her views were disputed quickly by San Francisco officials, including Public Defender Jeff Brown, who said Silver's ideas could provoke "a domestic arms race." In an article that she and San Francisco civil rights attorney Don Kates wrote for the Wall Street Journal, Silver also said that excess use of force by police is "regularly whitewashed," and use of force by citizens is often more effective than police action. She said later in an interview that every citizen who feels threatened by crime should have a gun in his or her home or office, and that many San Franciscans should have guns because police will not protect them. "I don't like it," said Police Chief Con Murphy. Keeping guns at home "creates more problems than it solves. It creates a false sense of security." Silver, who keeps a pistol at home and carried a gun until last year, wrote the article after hearing about the subway vigilante who shot four youths in New York.
                        We should get her back in office!

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                        • #13
                          Sgt Raven
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 3784

                          Originally posted by swhatb
                          We should get her back in office!
                          That's the problem with term limits.
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                          • #14
                            mofugly13
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 885

                            Thanks to term limits, Chris Daly will be gone soon.
                            No government deprives its citizens of rights without asserting that its actions are "reasonable" and "necessary" for high-sounding reasons such as "public safety."
                            A right that can be regulated is no right at all, only a temporary privilege dependent upon the good will of the very government
                            officials that such right is designed to constrain.

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                            • #15
                              B Strong
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 6367

                              Beat ya to it Steyr:

                              The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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