Livermore Open Carry - On Police Scanner (VIDEO on post #24)

[oaklander]

OK, I just heard about a Livermore Open Carry "outing" on my police scanner. The group is apparently downtown and is "winding their way through local businesses."

The location is First Street.

Who here is doing that?

/me whips out the large trout.

[Merle]

FYI: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/35723.html

[SteveH]

They must be doing their homework choosing locations. In the city i live in its very hard to find anyplace that is not withen 1000' of k-12 school with all the churches and montessori schools.

[Hanniballs]

They must be doing their homework choosing locations. In the city i live in its very hard to find anyplace that is not withen 1000' of k-12 school with all the churches and montessori schools.

a majority of downtown first street it free of school zones

[CitaDeL]

OK, I just heard about a Livermore Open Carry "outing" on my police scanner. The group is apparently downtown and is "winding their way through local businesses."

The location is First Street.

Who here is doing that?

/me whips out the large trout.

Fresh fish is not sufficient deterent to their activities.

I think a couple may have been to Calguns, but choose to participate on OCDO as they arent treated like red-headed stepchildren there. In spite of requests to hold off until June, events like this continue to be scheduled and attended with enthusiasm and still growing numbers. (Many of which have not yet heard of Calguns and could become contributing members here.) In spite of the enthusiasm it is apparent that some guidence is still needed- which in my view is a good reason to get Calguns members involved, even if it is only to observe and lend a hand with keeping participants within the law.

[demnogis]

I wouldn't be so against it. Organizers of these group UOC events invest a lot of time and research into location, laws, etc. The Huntington Beach meetup went great, and despite the outcry on Calguns, we ran out of informational pamphlets and more people left saying "wow, I didn't know that!" with a smile, than the 1 person who ran to the police nearby and still got informed from a cop with a smile.

Positive exposure works. Also, we do highly stress CYA before even thinking about carrying, solo or group.

Fresh fish is not sufficient deterent to their activities.

I think a couple may have been to Calguns, but choose to participate on OCDO as they arent treated like red-headed stepchildren there. In spite of requests to hold off until June, events like this continue to be scheduled and attended with enthusiasm and still growing numbers. (Many of which have not yet heard of Calguns and could become contributing members here.) In spite of the enthusiasm it is apparent that some guidence is still needed- which in my view is a good reason to get Calguns members involved, even if it is only to observe and lend a hand with keeping participants within the law.

[technique]

Looks planned on OCDO...They know where they are and what surrounds it.
No trout needed.

[Liberty1]

It isn't that outreach is bad or that people react badly; they don't generally. It's the negative media, legislative, LEA attention/action that we can't counter effectively just yet while awaiting incorporation tools.

That said, I will be attending any events that I can as a good witness/observer in my area just to start building a better relationship with the new crop of activists.

[Window_Seat]

I was going (W/O OCing), but couldn't (bad ankle injury from a while back getting worse). As I've stated before, it's not a great idea (not a terrible one either) to OC until after we are given some form of protections after McDonald v Chicago, Sykes, et all, and finally, the 9th gives us victory in the Nordyke case, no? It's important to remember that the CA Constitution gives it's citizens no RKBA. Better to wait until after June when we get some serious changes.

Erik.

[sv_1]

They must be doing their homework choosing locations. In the city i live in its very hard to find anyplace that is not withen 1000' of k-12 school with all the churches and montessori schools.

Does a church count as a k-12 school ?

[sytfu_RR]

I heard this aswell from some associates within ALCO. Hope it don't turn into a mess.

[technique]

Does a church count as a k-12 school ?

The ones he is probably referring too...are private schools located on church grounds...

[SteveH]

Does a church count as a k-12 school ?

If it has a school in it it does. My church has preschool as well as grade K-8.

[pingpong]

Preschools shouldn't count as a k-12 school right?

[Whiskey84]

Downtown Livermore doesn't have any schools on 1st street as long as you don't get too far east towards Livermore High or St. Michaels.