Made a bet last night re: the roster and discretionary issue CCW

[Maestro Pistolero]

I bet an expensive dinner for four at our favorite restaurant that the 'roster' and discretionary issue will be gone in less than five years.

The person whom I bet actually hopes to lose, but is very doubtful. He's a retired Police Lt from San Diego, who just sold a thriving gun and duty gear shop to retire here in Nevada. Am I going to get my dinner?

[bulgron]

I bet an expensive dinner for four at our favorite restaurant that the 'roster' and discretionary issue will be gone in less than five years.

The person whom I bet actually hopes to lose, but is very doubtful. He's a retired Police Lt from San Diego, who just sold a thriving gun and duty gear shop to retire here in Nevada. Am I going to get my dinner?

Yes.

Bon Appetit!

[mtptwo]

Five years? It should be much shorter than that. I would have gone for two years.

[loather]

With all the legal battles coming down the pipe, I'd say this is a shoe-in. Once incorporation hits, it's game on.

[spddrcr]

has hollywood taught you guys nothing? we will all be dead in 2012!!!!

[hoffmang]

You'll be eating well. I suggest ordering a bottle of Chateau Montelena to go with the crow you'll be serving your pal.

-Gene

[nicki]

Fair bet?

You did give your friend odds, right?

Nicki

[bulgron]

Five years? It should be much shorter than that. I would have gone for two years.

Two years seems too aggressive to me. It seems like it'll be closer to three. My crystal ball looks like this:

1. Incorporation, summer 2010.
2. Initial Sykes answer from the circuit judge, Fall, 2010.
3. Response to appeal to 9th circuit, (3 judge panel), Fall 2011
4. Response to appeal to en-banc 9th circuit, Fall 2012
5. Response to SCOTUS appeal, Summer 2013.

Also, I predict we win 1, 2 and 5, but lose 3. If we lose 3, then 4 doesn't happen and the timeline pulls back to 2012, unless the 9th pulls a Nordyke on us. In any case, Sykes should be settled 2.5 - 3.5 years from now.

Note that I'm assuming the other side fights as hard as possible, and both the other side and the court drags their feet on these cases.

Others with a clearer crystal ball than mine might have a more accurate prediction than me.

[ocspeedracer]

Let's hope!

[cadurand]

I bet an expensive dinner for four at our favorite restaurant that the 'roster' and discretionary issue will be gone in less than five years.

The person whom I bet actually hopes to lose, but is very doubtful. He's a retired Police Lt from San Diego, who just sold a thriving gun and duty gear shop to retire here in Nevada. Am I going to get my dinner?

How long, if ever, did your cop friend think shall-issue CCW would take?

[Crazed_SS]

I bet an expensive dinner for four at our favorite restaurant that the 'roster' and discretionary issue will be gone in less than five years.

The person whom I bet actually hopes to lose, but is very doubtful. He's a retired Police Lt from San Diego, who just sold a thriving gun and duty gear shop to retire here in Nevada. Am I going to get my dinner?

My sources say no /8 Ball

[ilbob]

I bet an expensive dinner for four at our favorite restaurant that the 'roster' and discretionary issue will be gone in less than five years.

The person whom I bet actually hopes to lose, but is very doubtful. He's a retired Police Lt from San Diego, who just sold a thriving gun and duty gear shop to retire here in Nevada. Am I going to get my dinner?

I would say you have a chance at it within that time frame. I also think that even with good court rulings there is still a good chance that shall issue could be held up for a long time, or even thwarted.

[gn3hz3ku1*]

You'll be eating well. I suggest ordering a bottle of Chateau Montelena to go with the crow you'll be serving your pal.

-Gene

i sure hope you're right.. however gene... you haven't been wrong yet!! woooo hoooooo

ccw here i come!

[Maestro Pistolero]

How long, if ever, did your cop friend think shall-issue CCW would take?

Regarding roster and shall issue, his prediction was never.

[gn3hz3ku1*]

Regarding roster and shall issue, his prediction was never.

people used to say never to Ar15 too... thank god they were wrong and thank god for bill and gene and the calguns gang