Stupid Municipal Codes

[Chris M]

If I'm reading this right, San Diego has defined any semiautomatic center fire rifle or carbine with detachable magazines as an assault weapon. I guess that includes mini 14s and Saigas, and just about anything else.

Only if you're using 20+ round mags.

which accepts a
detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty (20) rounds or more,
with a barrel of more than sixteen (16) inches, including but not
limited to the following firearms or their copies: AR 15 semiautomatic
assault rifles, Uzi semiautomatic assault rifles or carbines, Ingram
Mac–10 semiautomatic assault carbines, Ingram Mac–11
semiautomatic assault carbines, Heckler and Koch 93 semiautomatic
assault rifles, Heckler and Koch 91 semiautomatic assault rifles, AK–
47 semiautomatic assault rifles, AKM–47 semiautomatic assault rifles,
all Avtomat Kalashnikov weapons, M1–A semiautomatic assault
rifles, M–14 semiautomatic assault rifles, Thompson semiautomatic
carbines and any other semiautomatic carbines manufactured by Auto
Ordnance

[Turbinator]

I am not going to get into it with the city attorney, but sounds like this does not apply to what I mentioned, as the nerf gun does in fact expel a missile.

So there we have it.

It should not matter what V-10 says at all, even if you are not in violation of that ordinance, you would still be in violation of V-14 (the firearms ordinance).

The good news is that the city DA doesn't seem interested in trying to prosecute for any Nerf gun violations. The problem, though, is that the letter of the law actually does make the Nerf guns illegal. Since there is nothing in writing that could be used in a Nerf user's defense, I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the DA's reply that the Nerf gun is not illegal.

Turby

[POLICESTATE]

Milpitas... yeah at least living in Sunnyvale is better than living in Milpitas. I lived there some years ago and it's an armpit with lousy cops and mostly lousy residents. Crappy schools, lousy choices for businesses/restaurants... now that I don't live there I never go there except to get from 880 to 680 (which I usually do in Fremont, ewww, another town I don't like, but at least it's not Milpitas)

I don't understand what is up with the police state mentality in places like Milpitas and Fremont.

I found these gems in the Milpitas Municipal Code:



If I understand that correctly, it's illegal to use this to kill flies.



and...
(this one applies to Air Guns only)


Which makes it illegal to bring an air gun to a friends house that also lives within Milpitas.

[johnny_22]

How about Tasers?

The definition seems to cover Tasers as well. With no exception for the police, are they all criminals?

[ALSystems]

Only if you're using 20+ round mags.

You're correct.

San Diego has defined any semiautomatic center fire rifle or carbine with 20+ round detachable magazines as an assault weapon. That includes featureless guns such as mini 14s and Saigas, and just about anything else. The whole point of a featureless gun is to use the 20 or 30 round magazines you've possessed before the California 10+ magazine ban.

I guess in San Diego, they convert 30 round magazines into 19/30 magazines.

Just another example of why the rest of country is tired of trying to figure out California's crazy gun laws.

[ALSystems]

The definition seems to cover Tasers as well. With no exception for the police, are they all criminals?

Probably only if they use it.
Lots of luck trying to sue the police for violating this city ordinance for using a taser on you. Sounds like selective enforcement to me.

[cdtx2001]

Here's what the city of Vacaville sez...

9.40.010 Discharge prohibited.

Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, no person shall fire or discharge, or cause to be fired or discharged within this city, nor shall any parent, guardian or person having the care, custody or control of any minor permit such minor to have in his possession within this city, or to fire or discharge or cause to be fired or discharged within the city, any firearm, cannon, fireworks, gun, pistol, revolver, anvil, firecracker or explosive of similar nature, rifle, air rifle, airgun, BB gun or pellet gun, crossbow, bow and arrow, or any instrument of any kind, character or description which throws or projects bullets or missiles of any kind to any distance by means of elastic force

[monaghan]

I am confused.

My city's Muni Codes reads 'No person shall ...on public or private property carry or use any air gun...'

So, one is allowed to Carry a loaded hand gun on ones person, on one's property, per CA law, but can't carry an airgun on their property? WTF?

[Mitch]

And this young girl is about to discharge a firearm.

OMG, what the hell is the photographer doing downrange of her?

[twotap]

How bout a super soaker?? I'm I going to jail??

[Hunt]

Obey

[Chris M]

I don't think water can be considered a projectile.

[twotap]

Ever see a pressure washer

[diablopilot]

My problem.... Davis, CA

Frustrations.....

27.01.01
For the purposes of this chapter, the following terms, phrases, words, and their derivations shall have the meanings respectively ascribed to them by this section:
(c)"Open space area" means a natural, open space area owned, used or maintained by the city, and devoted to habitat, agriculture or passive recreation and not designated a park by the city.

(d)"Park" means a park, reservation, playground, golf course, swimming pool, recreation center, greenbelts, greenways, or any other area in the city, owned or used by the city and devoted to active or passive recreation.

[tiki]

Frustrations.....

Preemptions...