Composit knuckles.

[SteveH]

Effective Jan 1, 2010 "Composit knuckles" will be illegal to posses in California. They have been illegal to import, manufacture or sell for a few years now. But not illegal to possess or carry. That changes in a few days. If you have wooden or plastic "brass knuckles" get rid of them before Jan 1.


Example of composit knuckles:

http://www.security-wizard.net/blplkn.html

Bill text:

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0701-0750/ab_714_bill_20090806_chaptered.html

[RP1911]

Humm...

My motorcycle riding gloves have carbon fibre knuckle protectors shaped as knuckles...

[bodger]

A roll of quarters wrapped up in duct tape was always my favorite, though not as effective as a set of 'knucks.
No doubt illegal as well.

[HowardW56]

A roll of quarters wrapped up in duct tape was always my favorite, though not as effective as a set of 'knucks.
No doubt illegal as well.

Try wrapping your hand around a Surefire E-2, or similar, flashlight...

[SteveH]

Try wrapping your hand around a Surefire E-2, or similar, flashlight...

I've always suspected that would result in as much injury to my hand as to the other person. But i've never tried punching a heavy bag with something in my hand.

Anyway, the point of this thread is some people may become unknowing felons at midnight friday. If you have wooden, plastic or composite knuckles throw them away no later than thursday.

[bodger]

Try wrapping your hand around a Surefire E-2, or similar, flashlight...

Nice. I Googled it.

[bigcalidave]

Damn it ! how did that get through! Does anyone even read this ****? That ****ing law is tacked onto 12020 so it's illegal to posses!!!! It was bad enough when they made plastic knuckles illegal to manufacture or import for sale blah blah. Now you can't have them at all.

Have to throw out any you may have already.

Oh, and as far as I can read in that absurd bill, since they have to be

worn for purposes of offense or defense in or on the
hand

any motorcycle gloves worn when you aren't riding could be called knuckles? Here are some pictures of motorcycle gloves I have. And I don't have a motorcycle anymore.

[joelberg]

Humm...

My motorcycle riding gloves have carbon fibre knuckle protectors shaped as knuckles...

Exactly what I was thinking. My riding gloves have "composite knuckle protectors" also.

[Capt. Speirs]

A Surefire or any small flashlight in your fist can do a lot of damage without even touching your hand. Have the light protrude from your closed fist a half an inch and smack the assailant in the temple, goes down like a sack of potatoes.

[dirtnap]

Tactical operator gloves often have plastic knucles too, however I expect the gloves(motorcycle, tactical, etc) will not be a problem. Maybe if they are "novelty" gloves with a crazy set of knuckles it might be a problem.

[kf6tac]

A Surefire or any small flashlight in your fist can do a lot of damage without even touching your hand. Have the light protrude from your closed fist a half an inch and smack the assailant in the temple, goes down like a sack of potatoes.

Especially if it has one of those notched bezels.

[bigcalidave]

So does anyone agree that having gloves will violate this new change? If just owning brass knuckles / plastic knuckles is a crime, and the gloves could be used in exactly the same manner, why not? (my Icon TiMax gloves are WAY better than any brass knuckles, and provide serious protection to your hands.. I love em)

[Cokebottle]

I think "it will be at the discretion of any of the 58 DA's in the State of California"

[bigcalidave]

Yay for discretion! So if I wear my titanium gloves someday I may be prosecuted for metal knuckles, but now if I wear my mountain bike gloves I can be prosecuted for plastic knuckles as well? WTF

[Prowler]

the problem with using a roll of coins or a flashlight is that once you open your hand, the object has less value to you as a "tool". It's only good for boxing-style fighting defenses, not street fighting or grappling. If you're interested in a loophole, try an s-link from your favorite home improvement store. Using a 1/4" or 5/16" s-link works just as well, but creates a problem when you open your hand to grab or grapple. Fits in your pocket or cupholder in your vehicle and is perfectly legal...until you use it as a weapon. Costs about $1.50.