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  • oaklander
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    • May 2006
    • 11095

    CGF - in the news - AGAIN!



    Hot off the press (complete with a great quote from Gene):

    (Note - what is interesting is that members of the press are now SEEKING OUT the CGF when they need to get facts about gun issues. This is pretty amazing PR, especially when you consider that we have a ZERO PR budget!)

    Bites

    Second guessing


    Does the Second Amendment—the right to bear arms—apply to state and local governments? Bites’ first reaction to the question is, “Well, duh.” Sure, the second is not Bites’ favorite amendment. But it is part of the package we call the Bill of Rights—which, like background radiation and Jesus’ love, is always all around us. Right?

    Wrong, according to the Sacramento City Council. The council voted last week to take sides in McDonald v. Chicago, a major gun-rights case which will be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court next year, and to argue that the Second Amendment doesn’t apply to the city of Sacramento, or to the state of California or, really, anywhere else outside of Washington, D.C. and a few other federal enclaves.

    Several other cities, including Oakland, Los Angeles and San Francisco are expected join in an amicus brief in the case, which started as a lawsuit against a Chicago handgun ban. Councilman Kevin McCarty requested that Sacramento join the fray, worried that the case could undermine local gun laws, a couple of which he sponsored.

    The council voted 7-2 to join the brief, with Robbie Waters and Kevin Johnson voting against.

    Bites should congratulate the council for taking this vote in public. In the past, the council has kept all discussion of controversial amicus briefs private—arguing, wrongly, that these are legal matters and exempt from public hearing. Particularly galling was a decision to hold a secret vote to join an amicus brief supporting San Francisco in the California Supreme Court case that temporarily legalized gay marriage in the state. Glad to see the council has finally figured out that it really ought to make its largely symbolic political points in public.

    Unfortunately, last week’s council discussion left out many of the interesting elements of the McDonald case. It’s only by historic accident that the Supreme Court has not yet considered extending the Second Amendment to the states, says Assistant City Attorney Matt Ruyak. Thanks to the post-Civil War 14th Amendment and decades of Supreme Court decisions after, it has been pretty well-established that statehouses and city halls can’t make laws that violate our rights to free speech, or a jury trial, or due process, among other rights.

    The court last year threw out a strict handgun law in Washington, D.C. But that’s federal jurisdiction, and it still left gun rights’ local status in limbo. “They have kicked this can down the road a very long way,” Ruyak told Bites, noting that the Third Amendment protection against quartering soldiers in peacetime hasn’t been extended to the states either. Go figure.
    Before last week’s vote, Councilman McCarty understandably tried to steer the conversation away from Con Law 101. “The question really is whether cities should have the right to craft policies to make their cities safer,” said McCarty.

    But it is a little ironic to see big city liberals suddenly taking up a states’ rights argument, noted Gene Hoffman, chairman of the Calguns Foundation, a Northern California gun-rights organization. “It mirrors exactly what the racist Confederates said in the South for years,” he told Bites.

    McCarty’s obviously no Dixiecrat. But this case has been unpredictably divisive. California attorney general and occasional left-winger Jerry Brown has taken the other side in McDonald, arguing that “Unless the protections of the Second Amendment extend to citizens living in the States as well as to those living in federal enclaves, California citizens could be deprived of the constitutional right to possess handguns.”

    Which really wouldn’t bother Bites so much. But having to quarter troops in the Bitescave would be a real drag.
    Last edited by oaklander; 12-24-2009, 1:45 AM.
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    NiteQwill
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2007
    • 6368


    The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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    • #3
      bigcalidave
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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      • Jan 2009
      • 4489

      Ooh great quote
      ...

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      • #4
        NSR500
        Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 19530

        w00t!

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        • #5
          AndrewMendez
          C3 Leader
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2009
          • 6777

          Thanks Oak!
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          • #6
            bballwizard05
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3323

            sweet, good work. california is stupid

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            • #7
              artherd
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 5038

              bow down.
              - Ben Cannon.
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              CoFounder - Postings are my own, and are not formal positions of any other entity, or legal advice.

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              • #8
                geeknow
                Lifetime Contributor #1
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Aug 2007
                • 3144

                Oaklander,

                Good to see that CGN is being sought out as a credible resource from without. This would not have happened were it not for the efforts that you, and the rest of the 'right people' have put forth. Thank you, all.

                You guys make us all look smarter.

                Likely, if you didnt have all of our 'mental muscle' tied up in the 2A effort, this board would be full of "look what else tannerite can do", and "who's got the blingy-est holster" threads.....which do have their own merits

                Thanks again, and Merry Christmas!

                g
                Last edited by geeknow; 12-24-2009, 6:33 AM. Reason: oops, wrong guy

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                • #9
                  Mulay El Raisuli
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3613

                  Originally posted by artherd
                  bow down.

                  Yes. Clearly, we're not worthy.


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                  • #10
                    r08ert209cali
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1534


                    I dunno, I've never been much for guns. I mean, sure, we have the usual gun by the door, another near the TV, one in the kitchen, and another in the bedroom...and several others laying around. For the most part though, we keep our home free of guns. We are peace loving folks.

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                    • #11
                      cdtx2001
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 6630

                      Great article.

                      It's nice to know others can see the bigger picture. It's not just about the RKBA, it's about the entire Bill of Rights.
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                      • #12
                        PonchoTA
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 2289

                        CGF is the awesomeness!

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                        Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.")
                        - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD

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                        • #13
                          vantec08
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3795

                          wow . .. . good stuff. who knows, maybe the Castle Doctrine .. . ..

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                          • #14
                            Swatter911
                            Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 398

                            Nicely stated. I hope Gene's comment made 7 councilmembers pause in reflection.

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                            • #15
                              BigDogatPlay
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 7362

                              I doubt that most of the seven honorable councilmembers even care. If it sinks in with one or two, thats a win IMO.

                              This is about the whole Bill of Rights, absolutely. And we can win the rhetorical battle by continuing to drag out the bloody cape of exactly what it is that their position in the law is based on... racism and the furtherance of seperate but equal. Jim Crow, pure and plain.

                              Offending the sensibilities of the anti's with the two faced fallacy of their position will make them back away. That and competent litigation. Messrs. Gura, Kilmer, Kates, Michel and so many others are seeing to the litigation.

                              It is up to all of us to continue to show the anti's where their "logic" falls down.
                              -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                              Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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