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  • #46
    Suvorov
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1391

    Originally posted by SP1200
    Jesus F'N Christ! Dude that scared the hell out of me.
    I travel to CA a lot with my OLL BB rifle!!!!
    Yeah, not bad for his FIRST POST
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    • #47
      Vtec44
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 2237

      Originally posted by ddeu
      I have heard, seen and read all kinds of info on the "bullet button' and how it makes guns w/ detachable magzines 'legal' in California... after research the CA Attorney General website and CA penal codes on the assault weapon ban, I found that what appears to be a ruling in February, 2000.... a bullet is not a tool, and therefore a bullet button does not make the gun legal... here is an excerpt:

      I'd like to see a direct link for this.

      Here's the link to the Assault Weapon Identification Guide 3rd Edition 2001, directly from the CA Attorney General office. In the Glossary, Page 80, "Magazine, Detachable"

      "Magazine, detachable - An ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with neither disassembly of the firearm action nor use of a tool being required. A bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool. Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine."
      "When chosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before." - Mae West

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      • #48
        bwiese
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 27616

        User 'ddeu' is all screwed up with outdated information during the regulatory proposal stage.

        11 CCR 5499(a) holds for definition of 'detachable magazine' - one that requires a tool to remove.

        Again, we'd all be in jail otherwise.

        A BB renders a magazine nondetachable and renders the rifle "not capable of accepting a detachable magazine".

        Remember, a magazine is neither detachable nor nondetachable on its own: the detachable vs. nondetachable status is solely determined by its relationship with the rifle, which in this case has a BB device.

        'Constructive possession' does not apply to AWs due to expresio unius concept - thus the rifle must be regarded as it stands and not in consideration of any prospective modification into an illegal status.

        Bill Wiese
        San Jose, CA

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        • #49
          Vtec44
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 2237

          Originally posted by bwiese
          'Constructive possession' does not apply to AWs due to expresio unius concept - thus the rifle must be regarded as it stands and not in consideration of any prospective modification into an illegal status.
          That's the best part
          "When chosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before." - Mae West

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          • #50
            BroncoBob
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2008
            • 6019

            Originally posted by bwiese
            User 'ddeu' is all screwed up with outdated information during the regulatory proposal stage.



            'Constructive possession' does not apply to AWs due to expresio unius concept - thus the rifle must be regarded as it stands and not in consideration of any prospective modification into an illegal status.


            Just makes you feel really good all over when you read stuff like this.
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            Unscrew the lid. There is a foil seal there.
            Pull the seal off and screw the lid back on.
            Then you can squeeze the mustard and it will come out of the bottle..

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            • #51
              Crusader Matt
              Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 231

              Originally posted by SP1200
              Dude that scared the hell out of me.
              I travel to CA a lot with my OLL BB rifle!!!!
              That scared me too. I just felt hours of AR building ideas and research begin to fall by the wayside, and that old feeling of wanting an AR but feeling helpless due to useless restrictions began to resurface. lol. The BB is like toilet paper, simple and bleepin genius.

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