Bullet button---legal in CA

[bodiebill]

An out-of-state gunsmith is building an AKM for me.
I sent him the bullet button to install.
He read on the instructions that it was not CA DOJ approved and is now spooked.
I had requested that my CA FFL send him some words of solace that the gunsmith could ship the AKM to the FFL dealer, and that the dealer would receive the gun and process the necessary paperwork---I don't know what the FFL sent to the gunsmith.
In any event could someone provide me with sufficient "official" information that the "bullet button" is OK in CA.
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[jamesob]

you wil not find any "official" approval.

[professorhard]

If you have to just send it to a middle man.

[Librarian]

Sigh.

DOJ will not approve anything (unless it makes things more difficult for gun owners - handgun and safety device rosters). Despite the fact that they also generally hate guns, it isn't really their job.

What you need to show is the California Code of Regulations describing a 'removable magazine' and a 'fixed magazine'.

See the wiki here.

Bullet button makes a 'fixed magazine' - it makes the rifle require a tool to release the magazine.

[hoffmang]

You can send him the Sac PD memo. Also, we should soon have another major LEA with documentary proof that they've adopted the AW Flow Chart.

-Gene

[Cokebottle]

DOJ has neither approved nor disapproved any BB devices... they have remained silent on the issue. The manufacturer's note is their CYA should the DOJ ever in the future issue an "approved" list. The problem is, the statement may lead some to believe that there is an approved list and that this product does not qualify.

Wearing pink camo at the range is not "DOJ Approved" either.

Numerous OLL/BB guns have been confiscated by various LEA in the state. There have been exactly zero successful prosecutions, and the guns have been returned to their owners.

[Bill Carson]

LSD was legal at one time. I spoke to a gun shop owner who spoke to a representative of the CA DOJ while he was getting his yearly inventory/inspection and she informed him that in all likelihood the "Bullet Button" will become illegal in Ca as soon as they get the money/time to push that law thru. Probably by the end of 2010. I could be wrong but this is what I Heard

[Josh3239]

You should tell him the CA DOJ doesn't approve of him building guns or you buying them, but that doesn't mean you guys will get in trouble

[an actual gun]

LSD was legal at one time. I spoke to a gun shop owner who spoke to a representative of the CA DOJ while he was getting his yearly inventory/inspection and she informed him that in all likelihood the "Bullet Button" will become illegal in Ca as soon as they get the money/time to push that law thru. Probably by the end of 2010. I could be wrong but this is what I Heard

Who's "they"?

[ENTHUSIAST]

... I spoke to a gun shop owner who spoke to a representative of the CA DOJ while he was getting his yearly inventory/inspection and she informed him that in all likelihood the "Bullet Button" will become illegal in Ca as soon as they get the money/time to push that law thru. Probably by the end of 2010. I could be wrong but this is what I Heard

I spoke to my cousin's sister's neighbor's aunt's grandma's maid's busdriver's grandpa's brother's uncle's friend that heard from...

[bodger]

LSD was legal at one time. I spoke to a gun shop owner who spoke to a representative of the CA DOJ while he was getting his yearly inventory/inspection and she informed him that in all likelihood the "Bullet Button" will become illegal in Ca as soon as they get the money/time to push that law thru. Probably by the end of 2010. I could be wrong but this is what I Heard

No big deal. Just slip in the ten round mag, drill a pilot hole for a #10 sheet metal screw, affix screw, and grind out the phillips head so no tool can turn the screw.

Fixed mag, no mag release.

I think I'll go ahead and drill the pilot holes now, just in case.

[glock_this]

all DOJ approval/lack of aside, the funny thing here is the BB was created out of a need specifically for those of us in CA.... so for someone to hem and haw about its legality in CA is kind of funny

[adamsreeftank]

If someone can find it, send him a link the the interview with (then) DOJ guy Iggy Chin showing off the bullet button and stating that it was legal.

[jamesob]

If someone can find it, send him a link the the interview with (then) DOJ guy Iggy Chin showing off the bullet button and stating that it was legal.

if i remember he never said it was legal, the reporter did.

[an actual gun]

No big deal. Just slip in the ten round mag, drill a pilot hole for a #10 sheet metal screw, affix screw, and grind out the phillips head so no tool can turn the screw.

Fixed mag, no mag release.

I think I'll go ahead and drill the pilot holes now, just in case.

I can dig it, but I didn't realize you could load the mag on an AR from the top like that. Isn't it kinda difficult?