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  • XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Question on mag rebuild

    I have an old Butler Creek 25 rd mag that is very used and doesn't work reliably.

    So I want to rebuild it using a T.I. mag.

    I just want to run this buy everyone just to make sure I'm doing everything according to the law.

    1. Break BC mag and disassemble it.
    2. Remove the spring and put it in the T.I. mag
    3. Assemble T.I. mag
    4. Save all BC mag parts in a plastic bag just in case I'm ever questioned

    Does this all sound OK?

    Another question.
    Let's say after years of use the old BC spring starts to not work or breaks. Can I replace it with a new T.I. one?
    I would then be in possession of a mag built completely of new parts. I would of course still have the old BC in parts in a plastic bag?

    Does this sound OK?

    Thanks
    Chris
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  • #2
    sonico
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 203

    That sounds more than okay. Saving the old parts is not necessary but if it makes you feel more comfortable then do it.

    It is completely fine to replace all the parts of your bc mag with TI parts. The only important thing is that you do not increase the number of hi-cap mags you possess.

    Remember, possession and replacement are in themselves not illegal. Manufacturing a new mag is.
    The important things are always simple; the simple things are always hard.

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    • #3
      Glock22Fan
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2006
      • 5752

      Originally posted by sonico
      That sounds more than okay. Saving the old parts is not necessary but if it makes you feel more comfortable then do it.

      It is completely fine to replace all the parts of your bc mag with TI parts. The only important thing is that you do not increase the number of hi-cap mags you possess.

      Remember, possession and replacement are in themselves not illegal. Manufacturing a new mag is.
      I concur. No problem, and you can put the new spring in straight away.

      Not a bad idea to keep the receipt and the old parts in (separate) baggies. However, do not rush to show the receipt until it is more than three years old. This advice is very likely unneccessarily paranoid, but being paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
      John -- bitter gun owner.

      All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
      I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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      • #4
        Decoligny
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2008
        • 10615

        Originally posted by XDRoX
        I have an old Butler Creek 25 rd mag that is very used and doesn't work reliably.

        So I want to rebuild it using a T.I. mag.

        I just want to run this buy everyone just to make sure I'm doing everything according to the law.

        1. Break BC mag and disassemble it.
        2. Remove the spring and put it in the T.I. mag
        3. Assemble T.I. mag
        4. Save all BC mag parts in a plastic bag just in case I'm ever questioned

        Does this all sound OK?

        Another question.
        Let's say after years of use the old BC spring starts to not work or breaks. Can I replace it with a new T.I. one?
        I would then be in possession of a mag built completely of new parts. I would of course still have the old BC in parts in a plastic bag?

        Does this sound OK?

        Thanks
        If you bought an old car, and had to replace all the wheels, then had to replace the engine and transmission, then had to replace the body and the frame, it would not be considered a "new car" even though every single piece had been replaced.

        You could have the old spring in there for 30 seconds and replace it, it would still be a "repaired" magazine, not a newly manufactured magazine.
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        • #5
          Glock22Fan
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2006
          • 5752

          Like the old saying: "This axe has been in the family for two hundred years. During that time, it has had two new heads and five new handles."
          John -- bitter gun owner.

          All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
          I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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          • #6
            pingpong
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2008
            • 5450

            Does this apply to magazines made for different guns that just so happen to be compatible? Say I have a hicap P226 magazine (which works in a P229). Can I use the spring in that to rebuild a hicap P229 magazine?

            Does this go even further? Could I use said SIG spring to rebuild a Glock magazine (assuming it's physically possible to do so?)
            Originally posted by luchador768
            We also had a lot of wannabe gangsters putting the display pistols down thier pants to "try them on.". If you bought a display handgun from the Riverside Turners in the 1990's there's a greater than average chance that there is cholo crotch on it.

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            • #7
              Glock22Fan
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2006
              • 5752

              Originally posted by pingpong
              Does this apply to magazines made for different guns that just so happen to be compatible? Say I have a hicap P226 magazine (which works in a P229). Can I use the spring in that to rebuild a hicap P229 magazine?

              Does this go even further? Could I use said SIG spring to rebuild a Glock magazine (assuming it's physically possible to do so?)
              As long as you end up with no more magazines than you started with and provided that the magazines haven't been changed in such a way that they no longer work in their original firearms, you should be good to go (but IANAL and this is not legal advice).

              I am guessing that changing a magazine to work in a different firearm and not in its original one would be called manufacturing, but I could be wrong.
              John -- bitter gun owner.

              All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
              I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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              • #8
                pingpong
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2008
                • 5450

                Originally posted by Glock22Fan
                As long as you end up with no more magazines than you started with and provided that the magazines haven't been changed in such a way that they no longer work in their original firearms, you should be good to go (but IANAL and this is not legal advice).

                I am guessing that changing a magazine to work in a different firearm and not in its original one would be called manufacturing, but I could be wrong.
                So in that case, a P229 mag can be rebuilt using P226 body, spring, etc. (as it still works in a P229), but not vice versa (since a P229 mag wont work in a P226)?
                Originally posted by luchador768
                We also had a lot of wannabe gangsters putting the display pistols down thier pants to "try them on.". If you bought a display handgun from the Riverside Turners in the 1990's there's a greater than average chance that there is cholo crotch on it.

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                • #9
                  Glock22Fan
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2006
                  • 5752

                  Originally posted by pingpong
                  So in that case, a P229 mag can be rebuilt using P226 body, spring, etc. (as it still works in a P229), but not vice versa (since a P229 mag wont work in a P226)?
                  You need advice from someone other than me. There's no exact law saying what Manufacturing is, just a letter from the DoJ saying that rebuilding is not illegal. When does rebuilding turn into manufacturing? I really don't know, but my guess is that if you modify a magazine to fit in a pistol that it didn't fit before, and it no longer fits the original handgun, then it would count as manufacturing.
                  John -- bitter gun owner.

                  All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                  I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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