3 years for being a complete idiot...

[ZirconJohn]

"oopa-you...!"

Seriously hope nobody EVER oppa's ME...!

I would really hate to have to tell that story when somebody says; 'what happened to you...?'
'Ah man, ya'shoulda been there... some psycho nut-case OOPA'ed ME...!'

[Kid Stanislaus]

England has degenerated into a pathetic remnent of its former self.

[zatoh]

Wow. They need a revolution.

[bigstick61]

The thing is alot of people there crave this sort of stuff. Democracy wins again!

People desiring liberty will almost never win in a democracy, especially one with an unwritten constitution.

[Flogger23m]

And yes, private gun ownership is banned - only the outlaws have guns, but they are easy to get in Britain for little more than the second hand value (on the open market) here.

You can own AR-15s with suppressors, and no magazine capacity restrictions. Can't say that about CA.

But, of course, they must be bolt action only. And the police have the right to inspect your home if you do decided to keep guns in your home.

And getting a gun isn't easy like it in is CA.

[Glock22Fan]

You can own AR-15s with suppressors, and no magazine capacity restrictions. Can't say that about CA.

But, of course, they must be bolt action only. And the police have the right to inspect your home if you do decided to keep guns in your home.

And getting a gun isn't easy like it in is CA.

Even when I lived there, it was difficult to get a firearms certificate for a .22 rifle, and they've tightened up since then. You need to have somewhere safe to shoot it and locked storage (safe) to keep it. There's restrictions as to how many rounds you can buy at any one time, and the maximum number you could store (I was allowed to buy 500 .22 rounds at a time, and have up to 750 in stock). The police will check your storage at least at every issue or renewal, and may come whenever they like between those dates.

Your neighbors, friends and work colleagues will think that you are Rambo and have a screw loose, because after all, the only purpose of a bolt action .22 is to kill people or shoot Bambi, and everyone knows that the police will protect you if you need it.

Back then, there were shops, usually sporting goods shops, in most towns that sold rifles and ammo, but handguns have never been common in England and very few shooters ever owned them (in my lifetime anyway).

The firearms certificate will specify what you are allowed to buy (e.g. ".22LR bolt-action rifle with sound supressor" and when you buy it the dealer has to record serial numbers dates etc. on the certificate and notify the police. If you sell the firearm, the dealer records this also and notifies the police, who have the tendency to swoop down and confiscate the certificate before you buy another rifle if they can get away with it. But, as said, sound suppressors are legal, provided that you ask for them to be entered on your firearms certificate and provided that you don't use the politically incorrect term, silencer.

[bigstick61]

I heardit's actually a bit easier to get certificates in Northern Ireland than on the other island.

[Glock22Fan]

I heardit's actually a bit easier to get certificates in Northern Ireland than on the other island.

It used to be fairly easy not as difficult as for other people for Protestant politicians in Northern Ireland to get certificates for handguns, as it was recognized that they were a prime target for the IRA. Not sure what it is like these days.

[ZRX61]

Indeed, I'm not sure but I think the law goes as far as covering components, such as spent cases or fired bullets. So, search your cases, bags and your pockets or stay away.

I just shipped 2000 rounds of belted dummy .303 rounds to the UK with no problem

[Flogger23m]

Yea, laws are pretty bad there.

I've talked to someone who said he used to own semi auto rifles ect. there.

[CCWFacts]

Three years, for ADW, owning a gun without a license, carrying without a license, ammo without a license, and a prohibited gun type (pistol).

Dayum. In California, someone who carried without a CCW and then pointed it at a guy's head would be looking at far more serious jail time. Gun enhancements and so on...

Well, if that's how they handle things in the UK, maybe you don't even need a CCW to carry a pistol. If he gets 3 years for illegal ownership + illegal carry + ADW, what's the sentence for just calmly and quietly carrying?

I assume that if someone were carrying (illegally) in the UK, for self defense purposes, and then used it, he would probably get far worse treatment than that thug got.

[ZRX61]

I heard today that it wasn't actually a "real" gun.....

[EOD3]

My coworker is a British national and enjoys telling me how crazed Americans are (he knows I shoot competitively, so he's semi-freaked out by me - lol - and it doesn't help that I'm female), but he's been here for over 18 years and hasn't become a citizen.

Let me see... Been in the US for 18 years, no citizenship, sounds like a LONG time for a work visa.

[Mulay El Raisuli]

... but he's been here for over 18 years and hasn't become a citizen.

You mean, in spite of great temptations to belong to other nations, he remains an Englishman?

The Raisuli

[Glock22Fan]

Let me see... Been in the US for 18 years, no citizenship, sounds like a LONG time for a work visa.

Could be married to a US citizen.