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  • #16
    a1c
    CGSSA Coordinator
    • Oct 2009
    • 9098

    Originally posted by cineski
    Which is why I feel giving an intruder in your house a chance to stay still (on their own accord) isn't prudent.
    Could be risky indeed if you don't know what you're doing. We're all armchair quarterbacking at this stage.
    WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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    • #17
      bigcalidave
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2009
      • 4489

      Good job. But when you get home and someone is in your house, you don't go in, you call the cops from outside. They could have had a lookout ready and shot him walking through the door.

      Oh, and where the hell do you fire a warning shot inside your own house??
      ...

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      • #18
        bomb_on_bus
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2009
        • 5492

        Glad to hear the bad guys met someone ready for em.

        Also really good to hear one of the good guys win against the common criminal. Lord knows how bad that could have turned out!
        Originally posted by aklon
        In 1775 we stood up.

        In 1776 we announced we would not be sitting back down.

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        Ahhhhhhhhhhh! Man that was some great Kool-Aid.......... hmmmmmm theres a hint of something metallic. Oh well guess I will get on with the voting.

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        • #19
          Swiss
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 830

          So why hasn't anyone asked how the victim came to be holding a handgun in the first place? CCW, lawful or not?

          Fresno homeowner holds 2 burglars at gunpoint
          Published online on Wednesday, Dec. 02, 2009
          By Jim Guy / The Fresno Bee

          Two men who broke into a home Tuesday night east of Fresno were held at gunpoint by the homeowner until deputies arrived, the Fresno County Sheriff Department said today.

          The man returned to his home in the 5000 block of West Belmont Avenue just before 10:30 p.m. and noticed the front door was open, sheriff's spokesman Chris Curtice said. As he looked through the doorway, he saw a man in the living room, rummaging through his belongings, Curtice said.

          Curtice said the homeowner pulled out a handgun and confronted the first man, who raised his hands but then started moving toward the homeowner. Fearing for his life, the homeowner fired a warning shot and ordered the man to lie on the ground, Curtice said. A second man then walked into the room from the hallway; the homeowner ordered the man to join his accomplice on the ground.

          Holding both suspects at gunpoint, the homeowner called the sheriff's office from his cell phone, Curtice said. Deputies arrived and took both suspects into custody.

          Several items belonging to the homeowner were found in the men's pockets, and deputies found more property from the home in the suspects' white Volvo in front of the house, Curtice said.

          Investigators learned some of the recovered stolen property had been taken last month in a burglary at the house, he said.

          The first suspect had three outstanding arrest warrants for traffic-related crimes and the second was on felony parole, Curtice said.
          Being pro-gun rights in the Bay Area is like being a vegan at an Outback Steakhouse. You know you're right but nobody gives a damn.

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          • #20
            AJAX22
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2006
            • 14980

            Well Piffle....

            If he was carrying the pistol concealed it probably wasn't a MAC from PRKarms....

            That would have been epic.
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            • #21
              shadowofnight
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 3749

              Originally posted by Swiss
              So why hasn't anyone asked how the victim came to be holding a handgun in the first place? CCW, lawful or not?
              I thought everybody had a Hide-A-Gun on their front porch for this very scenario

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              • #22
                an actual gun
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2007
                • 5423

                Originally posted by BroncoBob
                Did anyone read some of the comments? Doesn't sound like the citizens of Fresno are too keen on their PD.
                Well they've killed 9 people this year, and let's just say they ain't ever helped me none. I am not fond of Fresno PD at all myself. Sorry if any Fresno PD are reading this. You might be good at what you do and might be the shining example to which all Fresno law enforcement should be held. Just haven't met you yet.

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                • #23
                  sirnonz
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1213

                  good for the owner for stopping them, i hope i will never be in his situation.

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                  • #24
                    mcholak
                    Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 189

                    My wife told me about this, I told her the warning shot was contrary to every training course I've ever taken. She looked at me cross eyed. I wouldn't want to take a life if I don't have to, but the idea of shooting my own house up because the idiot wouldn't listen isn't too appealing.

                    As for CCW, I'm not sure that was ever stated for sure but in Fresno I wouldn't be too surprised. The FCSD is pretty good about issuing permits.

                    AS for FPD, they do seem to be shooting a lot of people these days. Maybe I'm not too worried about it because in the end most of these people, if not all of them, aren't good people. If I were sticking to my principals on this one that would bother me, but at the moment it doesn't. I don't anticipate ever being at the other end of the barrel from a FPD officer....or any other officer for that matter. The VCSU that was around in the 90's may not have been the most gentle people around, but it stopped a lot of the violent crime we are seeing right now.

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                    • #25
                      Lyte-
                      CGSSA Associate
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2063

                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      I know you and frankly since we're being honest you disgust me.
                      In all honesty I waffle between finding you disgusting and pitying you that your life is so void of anything substantial that you measure yourself by 'conquests' and who you know that can get you in where.

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                      • #26
                        AJAX22
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2006
                        • 14980

                        blood stains and smells bad

                        spackle/paint is cheap and easy
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                        • #27
                          joemama
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2333

                          So I have a question. All this talk about the robbers and their families filing a civil suit. Why doesnt the home owner sue them? I'd say they could sue them for the broken door, any other items they broke in the home, and emotional distress should be thrown in there as well.

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                          • #28
                            an actual gun
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 5423

                            I only really worry about the warning shot as to its legal repercussions. Most every city code I've seen has laws against the discharge of a firearm within city limits unless it is in defense of your life, and I wonder if it could be argued that a warning shot is not proper defense of ones life. It's not that I believe that, it's that I don't want to be facing that down in court with the prosecutor having yet another scruple to stack or wage against my case.

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                            • #29
                              Seesm
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7812

                              If the laws were better you could fire a gun within city limits...But yeah shooting up my home woudl bum me out.

                              Originally posted by cbn620
                              Well they've killed 9 people this year, and let's just say they ain't ever helped me none. I am not fond of Fresno PD at all myself. Sorry if any Fresno PD are reading this. You might be good at what you do and might be the shining example to which all Fresno law enforcement should be held. Just haven't met you yet.
                              Aint aint a word... and none does not fit where you put it... I am no "ohsmily" as I spell lots of things wrong buuut....

                              How about:

                              "They have not helped me out at all..." or something like that?

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                              • #30
                                kenjimatic
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 884

                                If you were in the victims situation and the burglar is walking towards you with both hands up what do you do?

                                option A: shoot him then when his buddy comes out shoot him too?
                                option B: shoot your house so you don't have to explain to the LEO's why there are 2 dead bodies inside of your house.

                                I think I'll shoot my house and patch it up later then shoot the bad guys and probably get sued and go to jail and leave the blood for my wife to clean up. But then again I would have just called the police and waited.

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