Buying a rifle as a gift for son?

[brianm767]

I'm thinking about buying a C&R type rifle from a private party for my son as a Christmas gift, Can I buy a C&R type rifle private party FTF transfer with the intent on giving it to my son as a gift, or would this be considered a straw purchase?

And if it was a straw purchase, to avoid it I guess I would just have to have my son complete the transaction?

[Ron-Solo]

If the rifle is 50+ years old you can purchase it FTF. You may then transfer it to your adult (18+) son in a FTF transfer as long as he in not prohibited from possessing a firearm. That is not considered a 'straw purchase' because you can legally transfer it FTF.

Other non-C&R firearms can be transfered directly to your son using the DOJ intra familial form available on the DOJ web site and paying the fee.

Merry Christmas!

[Dangerous]

get a black powder revolver that would be cool, and i dont think you need an ffl. but im not sure

[brianm767]

If the rifle is 50+ years old you can purchase it FTF. You may then transfer it to your adult (18+) son in a FTF transfer as long as he in not prohibited from possessing a firearm. That is not considered a 'straw purchase' because you can legally transfer it FTF.

Other non-C&R firearms can be transfered directly to your son using the DOJ intra familial form available on the DOJ web site and paying the fee.

Merry Christmas!

Thanks, I have transferred other firearms to or from both my son and father through the DOJ as you mentioned, but I was not clear on the C&R's, I know if one was to DROS a firearm with the intent of giving it to some else it's a straw purchase, but I thought it might be different with the C&R FTF transfer, thanks for the info.

[Librarian]

Thanks, I have transferred other firearms to or from both my son and father through the DOJ as you mentioned, but I was not clear on the C&R's, I know if one was to DROS a firearm with the intent of giving it to some else it's a straw purchase, but I thought it might be different with the C&R FTF transfer, thanks for the info.

Actually, that isn't true. 'Straw purchase' is narrower than that.

If the person to receive the gift is 'prohibited', yes, buying a gun for that person is certainly a 'straw purchase'.

See the Wiki article and follow the link to the source site.

[brianm767]

Actually, that isn't true. 'Straw purchase' is narrower than that.

If the person to receive the gift is 'prohibited', yes, buying a gun for that person is certainly a 'straw purchase'.

See the Wiki article and follow the link to the source site.

Yes I would figure getting a gun into the hands of any one who is prohibited no matter what the means of the transfer would be illegal.

But in this case I don't have to worry about that, the only one I'd gift a gun to is my son, and he's a Deputy, so he's good to go, and Ron-Solo did point that out in his post about he must not be prohibited from possessing a firearm.

[spddrcr]

not to thread jack but what if i wanted to buy my father in law a shotgun for Xmas? I know he is not prohibited and i was thinking that i wanted to get him the gun and wrap it up for xmas and then do the transfwer afterwards. But after going over the laws what i wanted to do seems to be a straw purchase so i didnt do it. how would you do this within the law?

[trautert]

Don't believe the FIL qualifies as linear family in the sense required by DOJ. How about you buy your FIL a gift certificate to the gun shop you meant to buy from?
Tom

[Mssr. Eleganté]

If the rifle is 50+ years old you can purchase it FTF. You may then transfer it to your adult (18+) son in a FTF transfer as long as he in not prohibited from possessing a firearm.

In California, parents can transfer long guns to their children no matter how old the child is. The child does not have to be 18+ years old. However, if the parent has a C&R FFL then the child would need to be 18+ years old in order to receive a C&R rifle or shotgun from the parent.

Other non-C&R firearms can be transfered directly to your son using the DOJ intra familial form available on the DOJ web site and paying the fee.

The DOJ intra familial form is only to be used for handgun transfers. No reporting is required for long gun transfers from parent to child. This includes both C&R and modern long guns.

All of the above only counts if both parties are California residents.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

I know if one was to DROS a firearm with the intent of giving it to some else it's a straw purchase...

It is not a straw purchase if you intend to give it to another person as a bona fide gift. You just need to be sure to follow the transfer laws when you give it to the other person. With a gift from a parent to child (both parties are California residents) no FFL is required. With a gift of a C&R long gun that is at least 50 years old (both parties are California residents) no FFL is required. Most other gift purchases of firearms need to go through an FFL when the firearm is transfered to the receiver of the gift.

[Quiet]

not to thread jack but what if i wanted to buy my father in law a shotgun for Xmas? I know he is not prohibited and i was thinking that i wanted to get him the gun and wrap it up for xmas and then do the transfwer afterwards. But after going over the laws what i wanted to do seems to be a straw purchase so i didnt do it. how would you do this within the law?

It is not illegal to purchase a firearm in order to give it as a gift to a non-prohibited person.

However, since it's your father-in-law, in order to legally transfer/gift it to him, you & your father-in-law will have to do a PPT at a CA FFL dealer. He would then have to wait 10 days in order to pick up the firearm.

[chiz]

If you want to give it to him on Chirstmas why not have your wife buy it then she can give it to him with your name on the tag. Its easier than doing a PPT and you can still surprise him