Expelled for having an unloaded shotgun in vehicle

[CDMichel]

FYI I just posted an update to the related thread on this that I started.

[paul0660]

This just made the front page of SF Gate online, in a fabulously inaccurate and truncated version.

[MasterYong]

They have dogs that can sniff for guns? New to me.

So riddle me this: if my car is parked on a public street and a K9 unit indicates it has guns in it- the cops have the right to harass me about it? Before reading this thread, I'm 99% sure that if a cop told me that his dog had smelled guns in my car parked in a public place and asked what was inside that I would tell him to go get a nice tall glass of STFU. I wouldn't have thought the cops could even legally ask you about it, since it's more likely that the guns in your car are owned legally than illegally...

[Meplat]

Yes there are dos that will alert on a gun, unless it doesn't smell like a gun.

Cops can ask anything they want. The question is, how to answer.

They have dogs that can sniff for guns? New to me.

So riddle me this: if my car is parked on a public street and a K9 unit indicates it has guns in it- the cops have the right to harass me about it? Before reading this thread, I'm 99% sure that if a cop told me that his dog had smelled guns in my car parked in a public place and asked what was inside that I would tell him to go get a nice tall glass of STFU. I wouldn't have thought the cops could even legally ask you about it, since it's more likely that the guns in your car are owned legally than illegally...

[Blood Ocean]

Here's the lesson, tell your kids and all their friends never consent to a search from any school administrator. Have them call the legal guardians and let them determine whether or not they want to consent to the search of the child. Too often authorities will bully these kids and the parents need to train them to not comply if they feel threatened. Picture the phone call:

son: "Dad the cops say they want to search my car, it's not on school grounds, what do I do?"
dad: "Tell them to get bent"
son: "They said they'll expel me"
dad: "I'm on my way, keep your mouth shut"

Almost guaranteed that this fictional situation ends better than the article does, if nothing else saving a headache.

[too old for this]

Zero tolerance is what come from government officials with zero common sense, if not intelligence. What is sad, if not scary, is that narrow-minded people, in this case, have one the most important jobs in our society -- educating our youth, which is our nation's future.

[Maestro Pistolero]

How is sniffing a gun in a car probable cause or reasonable suspicion of anything, since it is not illegal to have a gun in a car? The dog would have to be able to determine if it was a registered, legal gun, whether it was loaded, etc.

[coop44]

How is sniffing a gun in a car probable cause or reasonable suspicion of anything, since it is not illegal to have a gun in a car? The dog would have to be able to determine if it was a registered, legal gun, whether it was loaded, etc.

Excellent point, I wonder if they can sniff the serial # out and bark it to the leo

[DougJ]

Excellent point, I wonder if they can sniff the serial # out and bark it to the leo

Damn Smart Doggie...

[CDMichel]

Please take note that the expulsion appeal hearing before the Glenn County Board of Education has been postponed from January 15, 2010 to Tuesday January 19, 2010 at 10 a.m.

Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused for those of you who hope to attend, but this change was unavoidable and we will work to the benefit of this situation.

Visit www.calgunlaws.com for the latest details on the case. Please visit www.calnra.com to send your email in support of Gary Tudesko to the Board of Education.

Thank you all for your efforts on behalf of our client and for your support of this case.

[CDMichel]

For those of you who hope to attend Gary Tudesko's expulsion hearing on January 19, 2010 at 10:00 a.m., it will be held at the Glenn County Office of Education Building at 311 S. Villa Avenue in Willows.

[Bhobbs]

One of my younger cousins and a group of his friends was expelled from elementary school because they were playing cops and robbers and used their fingers like pistols. He is now home schooled along with the rest of his siblings and friends involved.