long gun registration ???

[896]

Hello. I would like to know if Ar-15 with bullet button 10rd mag and all the features can be registered with the voluntary long rifle form ??
Is it a good idea to register the firearm incase it is stolen from your home.
I am not sure about the aw registration if it even possible to registure an aw

Thanks Brian

[Shane916]

It's not an AW and can't be registered as one. The DROS is sufficient as there is no need to register the gun. Storing the serial number would be sufficient if the firearm was stolen. The ATF can do a trace on it and determine where it was sold and pull up the 4473 if this ever is needed.

[Telperion]

Why do you want to do this? If and when your firearms are stolen, then you can report the details to the authorities. You should record the serial numbers along with photos for your own records.

[ke6guj]

you can volreg it if you want to.

[896]

I was concerned that if the firearm was stolen why I was out of town, and someone was stoped with the firearm when the number was run it would not match the person with the firearm. (overly protective I am I guess )

Brian

[Cokebottle]

I was concerned that if the firearm was stolen why I was out of town, and someone was stoped with the firearm when the number was run it would not match the person with the firearm. (overly protective I am I guess )

California DOJ has no registered record of long guns.
The DROS information is supposedly deleted a few days after processing... all DOJ has is "Joe's guns sold a rifle".
The serial number is supposedly only stored in the gun shops files, so if someone were to be stopped and the SN checked, unless it were reported stolen, it would be assumed to be theirs unless it were a part of a cache of other weapons that included stolen weapons.

Handguns are a different story.

[ke6guj]

California DOJ has no registered record of long guns.
The DROS information is supposedly deleted a few days after processing... all DOJ has is "Joe's guns sold a rifle".
The serial number is supposedly only stored in the gun shops files, so if someone were to be stopped and the SN checked, unless it were reported stolen, it would be assumed to be theirs unless it were a part of a cache of other weapons that included stolen weapons.

Handguns are a different story.

But if the OP did a volreg, CADOJ would have a registered record of that long gun. I'd assume at that point, if the serial number was run, it would come back registered to the OP, just like handguns do.

[Cokebottle]

But if the OP did a volreg, CADOJ would have a registered record of that long gun. I'd assume at that point, if the serial number was run, it would come back registered to the OP, just like handguns do.

Probably... but when a long gun is reported stolen, would it be processed the same as a handgun though DOJ since most officer would assume that it is not registered, and is the database that would be searched for a stolen weapon connected to the registration database?

[896]

I would think that it would be ok to VOLREG

If the AR was purchased in CA then I should be able to VOLREG it right? or could there be issues with DOJ

[ke6guj]

Yes, as I mentioned above, you can volreg it it you want to.

How do I know if my firearms need to be registered?

There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you may submit a Firearm Ownership Record to the DOJ for any firearm you own. Having a Firearm Ownership Record on file with the DOJ may help in the return of your firearm if it is lost or stolen. With very few and specific exceptions, all firearm transactions must be conducted through a firearms dealer.

However, a volreg does not allow you to turn it into an AW. And I guess the possibility exists that CADOJ could decide to look at you based on the info contained on your volreg.

[896]

What does that mean the CADOJ could decide to look at me. I have hand guns that are registered. I would think that other people have VOLREG there AR. or would I be the only person

[Cokebottle]

What does that mean the CADOJ could decide to look at me. I have hand guns that are registered. I would think that other people have VOLREG there AR. or would I be the only person

Probably one of very few.

Most gun owners would prefer and take steps to ensure that the government knows as little about them, their weapons, and their ammo as legally possible.
Many people will not even publicly admit to owning weapons and ammo on public forums. That is not security from civilian "bad guys"... it's security from the government should it turn to tyranny.
Quite a few Calgunners build AK and other pistols because they can be legally built for personal use with no paper.

Thousands of rifles are sold legally in this state every month and none of them are registered. Most people don't even know about volreg.

[896]

I have been told you purchase items at Walmart with a credit card or atm card there is a record of your purchase. Walmart tracks what you purchase
so I think they know how much ammo you purchase

[ke6guj]

What does that mean the CADOJ could decide to look at me. I have hand guns that are registered. I would think that other people have VOLREG there AR. or would I be the only person

There is nothing that would prohibit you from volreg'ing it if you wanted to.

However, you asked "or could there be issues with DOJ". YOu are telling them "point blank" that you have an AR-pattern firearm, and they still like to claim that BB's aren't legal. So, if they wanted to cause trouble, they have your info without having had to audit an FFL to see the bound book.

Would something like that happen, not likely, but the possibility does exist, and you asked "or could there be issues with DOJ ".

[896]

I thought that the DOJ does checks on the local gun stores, I am sure they see CA AR's in the stores when they inspect. If they where concerned about the BB issues I would think they would do something to the owner of the store. for importing a banned firearm