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[BigBamBoo]

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[spyderco monkey]

The nuts come in clusters....

[kf6tac]

Stuff like this makes me seriously contemplate getting a compact/sub-compact handgun for my desk drawer at work.

[Untamed1972]

at what point though will this make people start to realize that the COPs can't be everywhere at once and that if the SHTF you need to be able to take care of yourself right then and there.

The "dial 911" thing has been grilled into our culture so much that when the SHTF that's all people can think of to do. The survival instict is being bred out of our culture.

I'd bet some guy would think twice about going postal at work if he new a few of his coworkers CCW.

[kf6tac]

I'd bet some guy would think twice about going postal at work if he new a few of his coworkers CCW.

Depends on whether he intends to survive. Most guys who plan to go postal probably don't plan to come out alive anyway.

[oldrifle]

I don't think I'd want to work in an office building without access to a handgun these days. This country seems to be going off its rocker lately.

Stuff like this makes me seriously contemplate getting a compact/sub-compact handgun for my desk drawer at work.

[sd_shooter]

I don't think I'd want to work in an office building without access to a handgun these days. This country seems to be going off its rocker lately.

At my company there is a policy against firearms @ work, ie. I could get fired if they find it. I'll probably live with the hope that nothing will happen at my work place...

[professionalcoyotehunter]

Unfortunately when the economy falls so do peoples hopes of survival and the comes depression which does not excuse this behavior but it explains it.

[Tomwadek]

How sad

You know what most people don't realize? If someone called the police, when the officers arrive they dont just storm in and save the day... they set up a perimeter and wait for swat... sometime swat doesn't storm in and quickly save the day either... they wait and plan it out... By that time the shots have stoped and ppl are dead/injured... THEN the police goes in. Now granted some officers are really brave and would go in there and then... but most of the time the above is prob whats gonna happen... A friend of mine believes when he calls the cops in that situation they're going to save the day like in the moves... storming in with m16 and full force in a matter of minutes.. Ppl need to have guns because no one is responsible for your life but You

[bodger]

I don't think I'd want to work in an office building without access to a handgun these days. This country seems to be going off its rocker lately.

I don't want to be anywhere these days without access to a handgun.
And two full magazines.

[MasterYong]

This is why I got permission to have a handgun in my desk at work. When I leave the office the desk key comes with me. We've had a few employees threaten, stalk, etc their managers after they were terminated (for misconduct, go figure they're mad for something THEY did) so it was an easy sell to my boss. "here, check out this target, I'm a decent shot, let me keep this gun in the office to protect myself and others..." "hmmmm... OK. I trust you."

[Untamed1972]

Depends on whether he intends to survive. Most guys who plan to go postal probably don't plan to come out alive anyway.

appearantly this guy didn't, cuz according to foxnews he is at large and considered armed and dangerous.

[RandyD]

You know what most people don't realize? If someone called the police, when the officers arrive they dont just storm in and save the day... they set up a perimeter and wait for swat... sometime swat doesn't storm in and quickly save the day either... they wait and plan it out... By that time the shots have stoped and ppl are dead/injured... THEN the police goes in. Now granted some officers are really brave and would go in there and then... but most of the time the above is prob whats gonna happen... A friend of mine believes when he calls the cops in that situation they're going to save the day like in the moves... storming in with m16 and full force in a matter of minutes.. Ppl need to have guns because no one is responsible for your life but You

Your observations are correct. As a former LEO, the training I received was consistent with what you have observed. We were are trained to secure the scene, and we were strongly encouraged to not act as individuals in resolving deadly force scenarios. We were routinely told that our primary job was to go home at the end of the shift. All of this leads to the reasonable conclusion that you are the primary person responsible for your safety. Additionally, case law has held the police have a duty to provide safety to the general public; the police do not owe a duty of safety to individuals. I am just paraphrasing the case law, but that is my recollection.

[unusedusername]

This is why I got permission to have a handgun in my desk at work. When I leave the office the desk key comes with me. We've had a few employees threaten, stalk, etc their managers after they were terminated (for misconduct, go figure they're mad for something THEY did) so it was an easy sell to my boss. "here, check out this target, I'm a decent shot, let me keep this gun in the office to protect myself and others..." "hmmmm... OK. I trust you."

You must work in the most awesome office building in the state then...

Try that in a big corporation Asking about it is probably a firing offense where I work...

[bohoki]

logic would dictate that if there is a 500 million pack of matches out there on the streets already you would try to get people to buy fire extinguishers instead of trying to ban matches