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  • NCSD
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 52

    DOJ denied me

    So this is the story I went to transfer a lower reciever Friday and the DOJ called said I was denied because of a charge I had when I was 14 years old
    (14 years ago) the charge was me having a screwdriver in my sock. They said the juvenile department flaged my name but it's wierd because I've been trouble free sense then. My question is it possible to be denied for a small charge like that, that happened that long ago or am I just screwed now?
    Any info will be appreciated
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    halifax
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4440

    Originally posted by NCSD
    So this is the story I went to transfer a lower reciever Friday and the DOJ called said I was denied because of a charge I had when I was 14 years old
    (14 years ago) the charge was me having a screwdriver in my sock. They said the juvenile department flaged my name but it's wierd because I've been trouble free sense then. My question is it possible to be denied for a small charge like that, that happened that long ago or am I just screwed now?
    Any info will be appreciated
    Juvenile records can be sealed and you should do that. A screwdriver in your sock? I doubt that was the actual charge. Do you know the PC you were charged with?
    Jim


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    • #3
      tgriffin
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2006
      • 5175

      If the charge was felony concealed weapons carry of a dirk/dagger, then yes, the denial makes sense, regardless of the time you have been trouble free sense that. I'm not saying that its right that you were denied, but from a legal sense, yes that is how the system is currently run.
      Originally posted by pullnshoot25
      I would love to have a hole cut in the ceiling so I could pop out and BAM! Hit 'em with my spice weasel...
      Originally posted by aileron
      The hassle would be between this. (_._) and this (_0_).
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      When Im wearing a miniskirt than yeah sure I use my foot to flush the urinals all the time!

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      • #4
        JustGone
        Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 150

        Aren't records sealed at 18?
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        • #5
          SJgunguy24
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14849

          Sounds fishy, did you go to court and get this squared away back then?
          There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
          The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
          The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
          The others, well......they just never learn.

          "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
          Patrick Henry.

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          • #6
            halifax
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4440

            Originally posted by JustGone
            Aren't records sealed at 18?
            Minor stuff maybe but felony convictions only if one petitions for it and it's granted. I believe.
            Last edited by halifax; 10-28-2009, 2:39 PM.
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            • #7
              Greg-Dawg
              Banned
              • Oct 2006
              • 7793

              Yup, screwed.

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              • #8
                abalone hunter
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 76

                was it a flathead or a philips?

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                • #9
                  Steveo8
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 319

                  Sounds like pinhead to me
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                  http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php

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                  • #10
                    sirnonz
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1213

                    sorry to hear, try to see if you can do anything about getting it sealed.

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                    • #11
                      HondaMasterTech
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 4338

                      That's "screwed" up.
                      Originally posted by Paladin
                      (Please skip the lame "two weeks" replies.)
                      Originally posted by Ford8N
                      If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995

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                      • #12
                        CHS
                        Moderator Emeritus
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 11338

                        Originally posted by JustGone
                        Aren't records sealed at 18?
                        Nope! They lead you to believe that, but records are NEVER sealed. There's just no such thing. If you get an expungement for example, it just updates your record, but it doesn't seal or delete anything.

                        That said, any felony on your record, juvenile or not, will prohibit you from purchasing guns. Any violent misdemeanor will prohibit you for 10 years.

                        Given that this was 14 years ago, I'm guessing it was a felony charge, so you're screwed for life.

                        Contact a lawyer if you want to own guns ever again.
                        Please read the Calguns Wiki
                        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                          wildcard
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 4916

                          Originally posted by bdsmchs
                          Nope! They lead you to believe that, but records are NEVER sealed. There's just no such thing. If you get an expungement for example, it just updates your record, but it doesn't seal or delete anything.

                          That said, any felony on your record, juvenile or not, will prohibit you from purchasing guns. Any violent misdemeanor will prohibit you for 10 years.

                          Given that this was 14 years ago, I'm guessing it was a felony charge, so you're screwed for life.

                          Contact a lawyer if you want to own guns ever again.
                          Don't listen to this BS.

                          Get your records sealed by going to the Juevenile Courthouse. Tell them you want to petition to have your records sealed. They'll schedule a court date for you and chances are that you won't even have to step foot into the courtroom. You'll have to list all your charges (they can look it up for you).

                          Now you can actually answer "No" to the felony and arrest questions assuming all you have is a juevenile record.

                          The above poster is somewhat correct though.. some agencies can still see your records. Not to the extent he/she advocates though.

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                          • #14
                            mmartin
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 951

                            also possible to go to the court and ask that your felony charge be reduced to a misdo. on grounds of completion of your probation and no trouble since. once that's done, you can have the misdo expunged.

                            not sure of all the details of how this works, but a friend of mine's son just did this.

                            takes a lawyer familiar with the process.
                            megan
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                            • #15
                              CHS
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11338

                              Originally posted by wildcard
                              The above poster is somewhat correct though.. some agencies can still see your records. Not to the extent he/she advocates though.
                              Agencies like the DOJ and the FBI who run NICS.
                              Please read the Calguns Wiki
                              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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