Referendum AB962?

[Scotty]

If someone does decide to go this route, it should be written like the gay marriage law where half the people voted yes thinking they were supporting gay marriage when in fact they were voting against it.

[tiki]

What is the referendum process? Never heard of it before. Would it be a viable option or a waste of time since we already have planned legal action?

Sounds like the Prop 8 fight. You know, the one where a court decided that a segment of the population should enjoy the same rights as the rest of the population without interference from the state or the church? Then, a large church from out of state bankrolled a publicity campaign to sway the opinions of the population into voting those rights away, despite what the court said.

I'm not gay, but the whole prop8 thing pisses me off because the courts decided that people should have equal rights and the voters decided not, and it was all bankrolled by the Mormon church. So, now you want to hand the decision on your firearms rights to the same group of people to decide? Yeah, I can see the tv ads now. No thanks. I'll take my chances with the courts.

[locosway]

Sounds like the Prop 8 fight. You know, the one where a court decided that a segment of the population should enjoy the same rights as the rest of the population without interference from the state or the church? Then, a large church from out of state bankrolled a publicity campaign to sway the opinions of the population into voting those rights away, despite what the court said.

I'm not gay, but the whole prop8 thing pisses me off because the courts decided that people should have equal rights and the voters decided not, and it was all bankrolled by the Mormon church. So, now you want to hand the decision on your firearms rights to the same group of people to decide? Yeah, I can see the tv ads now. No thanks. I'll take my chances with the courts.

Marriage, to me, is a religious event. I do see some need for accepting a marriage at the state or federal level, but they should accept any two people who like to marry. A person is a person, and their religious views or personal views should not affect their rights.

Back the the OP. Like I said, if one were to "sell" this right, it could go over well. Everything in life is about how it's proposed. With the right pitch, anything is possible... Just look at the White House.

[KylaGWolf]

Sounds like the Prop 8 fight. You know, the one where a court decided that a segment of the population should enjoy the same rights as the rest of the population without interference from the state or the church? Then, a large church from out of state bankrolled a publicity campaign to sway the opinions of the population into voting those rights away, despite what the court said.

I'm not gay, but the whole prop8 thing pisses me off because the courts decided that people should have equal rights and the voters decided not, and it was all bankrolled by the Mormon church. So, now you want to hand the decision on your firearms rights to the same group of people to decide? Yeah, I can see the tv ads now. No thanks. I'll take my chances with the courts.

Prop 8 was a bit more than JUST the mormon church. But that is beside the point. I have to agree a referendum would be a really bad idea. I think that is part of why it was suggested the legislator knows that if it came down to the voters voting for it the anti gun would have massive ads to damage any good that would come out of the referendum and we would lose and badly and it would give the anti gun all the power in making even more bad laws for this state.

[dantodd]

Sounds like the Prop 8 fight. You know, the one where a court decided that a segment of the population should enjoy the same rights as the rest of the population without interference from the state or the church? Then, a large church from out of state bankrolled a publicity campaign to sway the opinions of the population into voting those rights away, despite what the court said.

I'm not gay, but the whole prop8 thing pisses me off because the courts decided that people should have equal rights and the voters decided not, and it was all bankrolled by the Mormon church. So, now you want to hand the decision on your firearms rights to the same group of people to decide? Yeah, I can see the tv ads now. No thanks. I'll take my chances with the courts.

The courts cannot "overrule the constitution" you and I may or may not like the laws as they stand but to want the courts to simply decide they don't like a law is a VERY VERY BAD place to be. Since Prop. 8 was an amendment to the California Constitution the California courts were in a complete box. However; if the federal legislature decides to take up the issue their laws would have supremacy. Prop 8 is also likely challengable as is under the 14th amendment, but that would be a federal suit and not a state suit. I have not been following he prop 8 issue and don't know if such a challenge is in the works or if they are taking a different approach, strategically waiting for an opportune time like CGF et. al. are with Open Carry.