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  • B Strong
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2009
    • 6367

    Originally posted by Purple K
    Keep the name as is and be proud to be associated with it.
    +1000.
    The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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    • Vanguard
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2009
      • 7235

      Change the name to the Fluffy Bunny Sunshine Foundation.
      "We're surrounded.....that simplifies our problem."
      -Chesty Puller-

      "Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!"
      -Chesty Puller-

      -Dimitri, I'm sorry they're jamming your radar and flying so low, but they're trained to do it. You know, it's, it's initiative!-

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      • artherd
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 5038

        Originally posted by CoinStar
        The accusation you've grown fond of casting my direction is that I'm disgruntled "old guard", CRPA staff.
        ... trying to impugn my character around here?
        Actually, if you read those links, I have repeatedly asked you to detail your affiliation with CRPA.

        It's interesting you get all hot and bothered when CRPA is cast in a negative light, yet further imply that an affiliation with them would "impugn" your character?

        Your statements contradict themselves. Why don't you spell it out for us Travis? Why not come clean with exactly who you are? I sign every post here with my full name, and my relevant credentials are in my signature. Since you brought it up - I am now asking you for yours.


        PS: I stand by my statement that CRPA is afraid of the internet! I'll go so far as to say that they are terrified of that which they do not understand.
        Last edited by artherd; 09-28-2009, 5:28 PM.
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        • loather
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 909

          Time to sit back and watch the show.

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          • dantodd
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2009
            • 9360

            Originally posted by CoinStar
            I thought posting private messages/personal information was a big no-no. I guess that doesn't apply to "directors" and such. Anyway...
            Yes, it is a wholly inappropriate thing to do. Is there anything that you have done that would incite such offensive behavior on the part of Ben?
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            • CoinStar
              Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 273

              Originally posted by artherd
              Actually, if you read those links, I have repeatedly asked you to detail your affiliation with CRPA.
              And I've told you repeatedly (although I don't owe it to tell you anything at all) that I have none.

              The onus is upon you to back up your claims that say otherwise. And so far, other than obviously digging through private messages of mine or those with whom I've conversed here on the forum in order to glean personal information about me, you have provided absolutely nothing.

              I would hate to even guess how you, as the treasurer of CGF, treat personal information of donors in light of witnessing your total lack of regard for the privacy of forum members.

              It's disheartening to know that you'd stoop to these methods in an attempt (a lame one at that) to intimidate me for the sake of your bloated ego. But perhaps other people will take note of your dishonesty too, so that might be the silver lining.

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              • bwiese
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 27621

                I think some wires may be crossed here or mixed msgs.

                I have never thought CoinStar to be a CRPA rep. I've met a ton of the CRPA folks and they're great and glad to move the organization forward.

                Bill Wiese
                San Jose, CA

                CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net
                ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my
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                legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • oaklander
                  Banned
                  • May 2006
                  • 11095

                  Agreed on both counts.

                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  I think some wires may be crossed here or mixed msgs.

                  I have never thought CoinStar to be a CRPA rep. I've met a ton of the CRPA folks and they're great and glad to move the organization forward.

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                  • HowardW56
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 5901

                    CS just likes to challange and stir the pot
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                    • oaklander
                      Banned
                      • May 2006
                      • 11095

                      Nothing wrong with that!



                      Originally posted by HowardW56
                      CS just likes to challange and stir the pot

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                      • artherd
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 5038

                        Originally posted by CoinStar
                        And I've told you repeatedly (although I don't owe it to tell you anything at all) that I have none.

                        The onus is upon you to back up your claims that say otherwise. And so far, other than obviously digging through private messages of mine or those with whom I've conversed here on the forum in order to glean personal information about me, you have provided absolutely nothing.

                        I would hate to even guess how you, as the treasurer of CGF, treat personal information of donors in light of witnessing your total lack of regard for the privacy of forum members.

                        It's disheartening to know that you'd stoop to these methods in an attempt (a lame one at that) to intimidate me for the sake of your bloated ego. But perhaps other people will take note of your dishonesty too, so that might be the silver lining.
                        Those are some very big and untrue accusations. I don't read PMs and it would be technically difficult if not impossible for me to even do so. I know your name via other and perfectly ordinary means. In-fact, I'd to so far to suggest that you might want to retract the implication that I might violate the confidentiality of my business associates... That might be you know, harmful?

                        So you're telling me you're not a member of CRPA and never have been, and don't have any family or friends who have ever been CRPA members? You have no affiliation with CRPA at all?

                        What was your full name and bio again? I feel weird having to ask twice...
                        Last edited by artherd; 09-29-2009, 12:19 AM.
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                        Chairman, CEO -
                        CoFounder - Postings are my own, and are not formal positions of any other entity, or legal advice.

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                        • artherd
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 5038

                          Originally posted by bwiese
                          I think some wires may be crossed here or mixed msgs.

                          I have never thought CoinStar to be a CRPA rep. I've met a ton of the CRPA folks and they're great and glad to move the organization forward.
                          You've met far more than I, though I generally agree with this statement. CRPA is made up of mostly good people these days. As an organization, it still fears the internet!
                          - Ben Cannon.
                          Chairman, CEO -
                          CoFounder - Postings are my own, and are not formal positions of any other entity, or legal advice.

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                          • Meplat
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 6903

                            Just a hint from a member who has no dog in this fight. You are coming off like you really need to get over yourself.

                            Originally posted by artherd
                            Those are some very big and untrue accusations. I don't read PMs and it would be technically difficult if not impossible for me to even do so. I know your name via other and perfectly ordinary means. In-fact, I'd to so far to suggest that you might want to retract the implication that a prominent businessman is violating the privacy of his clients... That might be you know, harmful?

                            So you're telling me you're not a member of CRPA and never have been, and don't have any family or friends who have ever been CRPA members? You have no affiliation with CRPA at all?

                            What was your full name and bio again? I feel weird having to ask twice...
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                            • artherd
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 5038

                              Originally posted by Meplat
                              Just a hint from a member who has no dog in this fight. You are coming off like you really need to get over yourself.
                              Point taken and thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna let this one go unless CoinStar wishes to share who he really is.
                              - Ben Cannon.
                              Chairman, CEO -
                              CoFounder - Postings are my own, and are not formal positions of any other entity, or legal advice.

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                              • Anothercoilgun
                                Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 176

                                Name change equates the ani-2A winning their fight against 2nd Amendment. You move this inch of a name change and they take a mile from your family to hang dry to every rapist in the nation.

                                You also loose out on the 1st.

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