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Report: Turner's visit with Gov re veto of AB962/SB585/SB41

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  • #31
    Greg-Dawg
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 7793

    I just got a spam mail from Turners regarding the two bills this morning.

    Originally posted by mmartin
    So I had a long conversation with Bill Ortiz from Turner's...
    What do you do again?

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    • #32
      pmrtruck
      Member
      • May 2009
      • 107

      Originally posted by bwiese
      Please ignore Turner's on matters regarding SB41 - the NRA has requested no comment/actions.
      From a practical standpoint SB41 is trivial.
      2)Updates various statutes to reflect the name change of the
      California National Guard Military Museum and Resource Center
      to the State Military Museum and Resource Center.

      This is not trivial. This is a direct attack against the existence of an autonomous state of California which resides and makes it's own decisions inside the great United States of America. This is at the very least dishonorable and disrespectful. I am surprised the men/women in the California National Guard are not a wee bit pissed at this one.

      Originally posted by ke6guj
      meaning there is probably follow-up positive legislation planned that builds upon SB41.
      Using one bad law to off-set another, no matter how erroneous the original law is never good. Two wrongs never made a right.
      and
      You are assuming ahead of time something GOOD will come from the passage of this bill?
      HUH?
      (see above)

      I will pull my BS card. This is nothing more than a separation of the inherent rights of Californians to maintain a history and a definitly, whether you agree or not, open minded governance. We will handle our own. We are proud of our California National Guard. (Let this pass, the Federal Brown Shirt memorial may come to existence next...)

      Just finished an email to Gov.
      Last edited by pmrtruck; 09-25-2009, 5:10 PM.

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      • #33
        wildhawker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 14150

        No have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

        Originally posted by pmrtruck
        2)Updates various statutes to reflect the name change of the
        California National Guard Military Museum and Resource Center
        to the State Military Museum and Resource Center.

        This is not trivial. This is a direct attack against the existence of an autonomous state of California which resides and makes it's own decisions inside the great United States of America. This is at the very least dishonorable and disrespectful. I am surprised the men/women in the California National Guard are not a wee bit pissed at this one.



        Using one bad law to off-set another, no matter how erroneous the original law is never good. Two wrongs never made a right.
        and
        You are assuming ahead of time something GOOD will come from the passage of this bill?
        HUH?
        (see above)

        I will pull my BS card. This is nothing more than a separation of the inherent rights of Californians to maintain a history and a definitly, whether you agree or not, open minded governance. We will handle our own. We are proud of our California National Guard. (Let this pass, the Federal Brown Shirt memorial may come to existence next...)
        Brandon Combs

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        • #34
          7x57
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2008
          • 5182

          Originally posted by ke6guj
          meaning there is probably follow-up positive legislation planned that builds upon SB41.
          Knowing the source, it's certain to fall into one of two categories:

          1) maximizing expected gain.
          2) minimizing expected loss.

          Nothing public says which, but it's one of those and whichever it is, it would behove us to pay attention. I just don't want you to bank on #1 and expect something good out of it if it turns out to be #2 and the benefit is avoiding something worse.

          Unfortunately, that's realpolitik for you. Fortunately, we have ninjas on the job in Sacramento.

          7x57
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          I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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          • #35
            mmartin
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 951

            I just got a spam mail from Turners regarding the two bills this morning.

            Originally Posted by mmartin
            So I had a long conversation with Bill Ortiz from Turner's...
            What do you do again?
            I'm an Engineer mostly working on medical life support equipment and ICU/medical test equipment, I design it, test it and help get it through the FDA. and I teach belly dancing.

            Megan
            "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams
            "To maintain the ascendancy of the Constitution over the lawmaking majority is the great and essential point on which the success of the system must depend;" - John C Calhoun
            "If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa

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            • #36
              artherd
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 5038

              Good work Megan!
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              Chairman, CEO -
              CoFounder - Postings are my own, and are not formal positions of any other entity, or legal advice.

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              • #37
                forgiven
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 5214

                Thanks Megan.

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