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  • Scold
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 428

    Sikh's now allowed to carry Kirpins. Bill just passed house

    Link http://sikhsangat.org/2009/09/califo...E2%80%99-bill/
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    Scold
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 428

    We need a religioin called "The Holy House of Calguniths" and we should have mandatory carrying of AR15's and concealed handguns at all times.

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    • #3
      dantodd
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2009
      • 9360

      Isn't that a violation of the "wall between church and state" doctrine? Afterall can you have a law that treats Sikhs differently than members of other religions?
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      • #4
        drewg13
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 885

        What a load of bull. Can I now carry my Ka-Bar? My private religion I practice at home requires me to.

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        • #5
          grammaton76
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          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2005
          • 9511

          Originally posted by dantodd
          Isn't that a violation of the "wall between church and state" doctrine? Afterall can you have a law that treats Sikhs differently than members of other religions?
          Not having read it, that's my thought as well.

          I would be perfectly fine with a law that says ANYONE may carry a Kirpin, but not a law saying Sikhs are allowed and everyone else remains under the same restrictions as before.

          ...on a side note, I find it very interesting that this training program creates a prime example that the state can and SHOULD work on officers' weapons education, including open carry...
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          • #6
            Scold
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 428

            but we live in the most progressive state right? Right....? *crickets*

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            • #7
              Roadrunner
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 3898

              Originally posted by dantodd
              Isn't that a violation of the "wall between church and state" doctrine? Afterall can you have a law that treats Sikhs differently than members of other religions?
              Exactly! In fact Christ instructed his disciples to sell their cloaks and buy a sword if they didn't already have one. I hope they don't ding me for obeying God.
              Last edited by Roadrunner; 09-02-2009, 5:27 PM.

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              • #8
                Dr Rockso
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3701

                How does carrying a Kirpan concealed not violate the current interpretation of 12020? The only way I can see that argument is if it has been agreed that a Kirpan is not "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death." If that's the case then anyone carrying a Kirpan should be good to go. I expect to see Cheaper Than Dirt selling the EXTREME TACTICAL KIRPAN USED BY INDIAN SPECIAL FORCES within the week.
                Last edited by Dr Rockso; 09-02-2009, 5:27 PM.

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                • #9
                  Super Spy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3461

                  I guess this allows the carrying of a weapon so +1....but it loses that point fast because it discriminates against non Sikhs by not allowing them to carry.

                  I'm with Scold...time to start a new religion.....
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                  • #10
                    Nessal
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2261

                    Originally posted by grammaton76
                    Not having read it, that's my thought as well.

                    I would be perfectly fine with a law that says ANYONE may carry a Kirpin, but not a law saying Sikhs are allowed and everyone else remains under the same restrictions as before.

                    ...on a side note, I find it very interesting that this training program creates a prime example that the state can and SHOULD work on officers' weapons education, including open carry...



                    Bingo!

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                    • #11
                      dantodd
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9360

                      Originally posted by Scold
                      but we live in the most progressive state right? Right....? *crickets*
                      Sikhs, cricket..... I get it.....
                      Coyote Point Armory
                      341 Beach Road
                      Burlingame CA 94010
                      650-315-2210
                      http://CoyotePointArmory.com

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                      • #12
                        Scold
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 428

                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        Sikhs, cricket..... I get it.....
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                        • #13
                          Scold
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 428

                          I love how some small sect gets special treatment yet our rights that are DOCUMENTED IN THE CONSTITUTION are infringed upon daily in this state. Sigh...

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                          • #14
                            Steyr_223
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 9480

                            I say we should all have quality before the law! I need guns and ammo on my person at all times..

                            I want my rights as a Grammaton Cleric First Class of the Tetragrammaton Council respected..

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                            • #15
                              1923mack
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 588

                              So does one have to be a card carrying Sikh to qualify for the Kirpin carry, or can any Joe?

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