DUI checkpoint caught on film

[Dont Tread on Me]

Here is the video and a newspaper article.

Looks like refusing to talk about your personal life will get you pulled out of your car and your car searched.

Anybody have a guide to setting up a video like this in a car? Looks very useful.

[GJJ]

That is because we live in a police state. This is not a free country. If it was, you wouldn't need the government's permission to carry your gun, you wouldn't have to give the government 1/2 of the income you earn, and you wouldn't have to give the government money to keep your home.

The first step is admitting there is a problem.

[Matt C]

Ok, well I watched the video, they did not search him or his car. THey did detain him for 15-20 minutes, which is reasonable if the officer had cause, and we don't know what that might be. I don't think there is enough information here to really say there was something wrong, except for one thing. It's against every police proceedure I know of to move a person's vehicle, especially without permission, by driving it. Either have them move it, or call a tow. And the reason for that is not a civil rights issue, but an issue of the guy claiming damage to the vehicle, which is exactly what happened.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I stopped watching as soon as he got out of the car. If I can't hear what is going on, it is about a worthless video of he said/she said.

[FreedomIsNotFree]

I stopped watching as soon as he got out of the car. If I can't hear what is going on, it is about a worthless video of he said/she said.

I was thinking the same thing initially. If you follow the article there is a transcript and the audio you can hear from the video is near the end....you can hear most of it.

What I thought was funny was the Officer couldn't drive a stick.....

[GJJ]

They didn't have the right to stop him in the first place unless they had specific evidence that he was breaking a law.

Checkpoints are inconsistent with liberty.

[Matt C]

They didn't have the right to stop him in the first place unless they had specific evidence that he was breaking a law.

Checkpoints are inconsistent with liberty.

Well, that's another issue, but I'm pretty sure there have always been checkpoints, as long as the civil rights of the person are not violated it's not a huge deal.

That said I don't much like them. I kinda wonder what one could be charged with for not stopping...

[slowjonn]

Looks like another roadside lawyer fishing for some reason that he was "violated" in some way. That is 17 minutes I'll never get back.

[FreedomIsNotFree]

There are rules they have to follow....

Michigan Department of State Police v. Sitz, 496 U.S. 444 (1990)

This is the case that made it all legal.....

[slowjonn]

I kinda wonder what one could be charged with for not stopping...

In California you would be charged with 2800 CVC - failing to obey a police officer (a Misdemeanor).

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d02/vc2800.htm

[PIRATE14]

Gotta be stats somewhere......

Do they catch more DWI on the nights that they have CHK points or on routine patrols???

I know that they catch a lot of guys for no registration, etc., that they might not normally catch.

I go through chk points all the time......I give vague answers to all the questions.

[FreedomIsNotFree]

Looks like another roadside lawyer fishing for some reason that he was "violated" in some way. That is 17 minutes I'll never get back.

I didn't hear him being rude to the officers....perhaps he likes to flex his rights a bit. If he did nothing other than choose not to converse with the officer and that got him pulled out of the vehicle that is wrong. I hope the cop smelled something on his breath.

[FreedomIsNotFree]

Gotta be stats somewhere......

Do they catch more DWI on the nights that they have CHK points or on routine patrols???

I know that they catch a lot of guys for no registration, etc., that they might not normally catch.

I go through chk points all the time......I give vague answers to all the questions.

Here is a link to a great analysis on these chekcpoints.....I wouldn't call 2 arrest with 19 Officers effective.

http://www.duicenter.com/checkpoints/

[slowjonn]

Frreedomisnotfree, I agree 100% with you. I was more refering to him jumping from one topic of concern to the next fishing for something the cops did wrong to hang his hat on. First it was the clutch is damaged, then it was it might be damaged. Then it was an alledged search by an alledged drug dog, then he went to something else, etc, etc, etc.

I have no issue with him being vague and elusive. I hope the cops didn't have him get out on attitude alone. This video is weak at best if you are trying bag on the cops. As far as moving the car...it happens all the time. In this particular incident, it is very much an officer safety issue and there is no problem with it what so ever. The cop that couldn't drive a stick was pretty funny.

[Wulf]

Well, it is a DUI check point. Absent some gross and obvious indication of a crime that would result in immediate probable cause for a search, they dang will better run you through a field sobriety check if they're going to detain you at all. Otherwise it sure looks like fishing expedition under the cover of a DUI check which is what the transcript supports. "You dont want to talk to me so I'm detaining you" is pretty weak cop-fu and not what the check point is about. At the very least he could have claimed to have smelled pot, seen a tail light out, worn tires or something slightly less weak.