2024 AB-3064 - Maienschein - Firearms: safety devices

[Markinsac]

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB3064

A roster for approved storage and safety devices. Everything on the roster has to be renewed (of course with a payment) to remain on the approved list.

[splithoof]

Wow. Just skimmed through that. IMO manufacturers of RSCs should simply start calling them only RSCs, and that they are not intended for the storage of firearms, but instead for the storage of fishing equipment, or other items. They can still sell their products here, and ignore the whole DOJ thing by not saying their products are made specifically for firearms, or have anything to do with firearms.
With the rampant problems of residential and commercial theft, people need to be able to store all types of items securely. Who said those could only be firearms? I can put whatever I want in a RSC, so this whole roster BS need not apply.

[boltstop]

"authorize the department to charge each entity that manufactures or imports into the state for sale any firearm safety device listed on the roster, an annual fee"

I presume all companies are free to drop off the roster and still sell their products. But then, there would be no devices listed on the roster. Portantino's bill requires all firearms to be stored in a container listed on the roster.

[splithoof]

Portantino's bill requires all firearms to be stored in a container listed on the roster.

Seriously, who is even thinking of complying with that, and how is the Stasi actually going to enforce it? I certainly will NOT, and extend the middle finger to anyone who suggests that I do.

[boltstop]

Seriously, who is even thinking of complying with that, and how is the Stasi actually going to enforce it? I certainly will NOT, and extend the middle finger to anyone who suggests that I do.

The point being that you have one law that demands the guns be kept in a listed container and another that actively discourages (by imposing an annual fee) companies from listing said containers.

You would think that any government that professes to care about public safety would be encouraging companies to manufacture safety devices and add their products to the "list" but Maienschein's bill does exactly the opposite.

[SpudmanWP]

Don't forget the Heller decision that specifically struck down mandatory Safe Storage requirements when it ruled:

the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.

It's as obvious to anyone with half a brain that a safe, lockbox, etc "makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional".

[WithinReason]

Geez...

[splithoof]

You would think that any government that professes to care about public safety would be encouraging companies to manufacture safety devices and add their products to the "list" but Maienschein's bill does exactly the opposite.

As we all know, this BS has NOTHING to do with public safety, and everything to do with the discouragement of gun ownership. We know it, the communists know it, and the judiciary know it. After it passes, the appellate industry can look forward to thousands of billable hours, the politicians will give themselves credit for doing something in the name of gun safety, and meanwhile another industry along with the citizenry will suffer.
This is all the result of elections; democrats in power have absolutely nothing holding them back, and openly laugh at the Eunuchs of SCOTUS, knowing full well what they are doing.

[Librarian]

Note this:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=23635.

23635.

(a) Any firearm sold or transferred in this state by a licensed firearms dealer, including a private transfer through a dealer, and any firearm manufactured in this state, shall include or be accompanied by a firearm safety device that is listed on the Department of Justice?s roster of approved firearm safety devices and that is identified as appropriate for that firearm by reference to either the manufacturer and model of the firearm, or to the physical characteristics of the firearm that match those listed on the roster for use with the device.

If the manufacturers don't care to add devices to the Roster, 23635 will prevent handgun sales, eventually. (Long gun sales still seem to be covered with the Safe Affidavit, except for the Bill that would require storing in a listed device.)

[yacko]

Note this:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=23635.



If the manufacturers don't care to add devices to the Roster, 23635 will prevent handgun sales, eventually. (Long gun sales still seem to be covered with the Safe Affidavit, except for the Bill that would require storing in a listed device.)

That would require the cable lock. And only the cable lock to satisfy that requirement. Not storage containers if you choose to not play that game. Or did I read that wrong?

[AlmostHeaven]

The tyrants in Sacramento never cease to invent brand-new ways to harass and oppress gun owners. The rest of the country eventually suffers from these ideas spreading.

[Librarian]

That would require the cable lock. And only the cable lock to satisfy that requirement. Not storage containers if you choose to not play that game. Or did I read that wrong?

A cable lock or trigger lock would still suffice for sales; this bill, however, requires those to be on the Roster as described. My hypothetical assumed device manufacturers/sellers declined to play that game.

[DCoakley]

And the merry-go-round continues on our money. Too bad legislatures weren't held financially liable for unconstitutional laws they pass.

[BAJ475]

And the merry-go-round continues on our money. Too bad legislatures weren't held financially liable for unconstitutional laws they pass.

Fortunately, not mine but unfortunately your money. As far as holding them liable, there is no justifiable way to exclude a governor who signs such legislation. To me, their actions violate the oath of office they took, and the penalty should be hanging from the Golden Gate Bridge.

[GetMeCoffee]

I posted in another section about the recent news that S&G electronic locks have backdoor codes. While that is disappointing to me, it isn't too surprising. I wonder how long it will be before a "CA Backdoor" becomes a requirement for certification.