Credit Card Companies Move Forward With Tracking Codes in California

[OlderThanDirt]

Carrying thousands of dollars of cash opens one up to a worse type of tyranny - civil asset forfeiture. I would never haul $5,000 of cash, not at all an unrealistic amount, with me to a gun store to buy firearms, accessories, and ammunition.

Maybe things are different in Vagina, but how exactly would LE even know you have a large amount of cash in your pocket?

[AlmostHeaven]

Maybe things are different in Vagina, but how exactly would LE even know you have a large amount of cash in your pocket?

Most civil asset forfeiture happens during traffic stops. Law enforcement officers seize cash deemed suspicious (i.e. whatever police officers make up), and victims end up facing the onerous processes of proving its innocent purpose.

"I wanted to buy firearms and ammunition using cash to avoid credit card merchant codes" would make the situation even worse.

[tsmithson]

Next you?ll be telling me about banks stopping transactions of truckers in Canada.
Banks controlling activities?
Crazy Talk.

Lol

[ldsnet]

Cash is king! Just another example where the cashless society is a really bad idea and the government controlled digital currency would be a disaster for freedom.

[LBDamned]

Can I get a Visa card with a custom picture of one of my guns?
IDGAF what these credit card companies, banks, other financial institutions, or anyone else for that matter think of my buying habits. Ditto for any social credit score. I am retired, no debt, own my residences, and have no plans to ever borrow money. I am unfiltered. They can suck it.

[DolphinFan]

This would appear to violate my inalienable right to privacy.

[32spoke]

Why doesn?t someone within the firearm industry create a credit card that would be supported by firearm owners?
Related to this is:
I don?t know the the card processing industry is run by, but even this can be bypassed-some big box retailers have their own credit card processing division. So they don?t have to lose a percentage of each credit card transaction to the processing agency. The big box retailer will still lose a little to the company that issues the card to the consumer, but no longer does the big box business lose the percentage from the card processing company, a third party.

[OlderThanDirt]

Most civil asset forfeiture happens during traffic stops. Law enforcement officers seize cash deemed suspicious (i.e. whatever police officers make up), and victims end up facing the onerous processes of proving its innocent purpose.

"I wanted to buy firearms and ammunition using cash to avoid credit card merchant codes" would make the situation even worse.

I?ve never been searched during a traffic stop, or even questioned much about anything. I suspect this is a regional issue in some areas, but I have never experienced it in California, nor do I know anyone who has.

[sirgrumps]

This would appear to violate my inalienable right to privacy.

BRAHAHAHAHAHA

What make you think you have ANY Constitutional Rights, especially 2A rights, in Kaliforniastan?

[Rickybillegas]

You could alway write a check.

Or, have a receipt from the bank showing you withdrew $5k in cash.

I'm assuming debit cards are the same category as credit cards since they are also issued by the banks.

[splithoof]

Carrying thousands of dollars of cash opens one up to a worse type of tyranny - civil asset forfeiture. I would never haul $5,000 of cash, not at all an unrealistic amount, with me to a gun store to buy firearms, accessories, and ammunition.

This is a good video from a news station to watch. If it can happen to these innocent folks, it can happen to ANYONE here. There are some lessons here to be learned about interacting with state-sponsored pirates, similar to responding to others of the same ilk. Be careful out there. As gun owners, we can also be their target.

https://youtu.be/sLfjD0YFmYk?si=EK0yedrwQjz3HEtd

[AlmostHeaven]

This is a good video from a news station to watch. If it can happen to these innocent folks, it can happen to ANYONE here. There are some lessons here to be learned about interacting with state-sponsored pirates, similar to responding to others of the same ilk. Be careful out there. As gun owners, we can also be their target.

https://youtu.be/sLfjD0YFmYk?si=EK0yedrwQjz3HEtd

Thanks for providing an additional reference resource. More Americans need to learn about civil asset forfeiture.

[splithoof]

Or, have a receipt from the bank showing you withdrew $5k in cash.

Having said receipt will likely not help you. Most often when cash is taken (stolen in plain sight by the police) the victim (legal owner) is not charged. It is up to the owner to prove the legitimacy of said cash.

[AlmostHeaven]

Having said receipt will likely not help you. Most often when cash is taken (stolen in plain sight by the police) the victim (legal owner) is not charged. It is up to the owner to prove the legitimacy of said cash.

Exactly. Far too many people have no idea, or at least insufficient knowledge, about this insane distortion of law employed by rogue agents of the state to seize private property with zero due process.

[adam6955]

Some of you act like you are pulled over and searched all the time.

If you are pulled over a lot, I suggest you take a hard look at your driving habits.

If you LET them search your vehicle, STOP. ACLU has a good “how to interact during a traffic stop” handout. I suggest you read it.

In the mean time, stop being such a bunch of cowards and stand up for yourselves and your rights.