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  • #31
    hoffmang
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2006
    • 18448

    Originally posted by Paladin
    Even those old, what were they, Indian Arms/Raven zinc alloy .25s?
    Pre-1985's are in.

    Even "Saturday Night Specials"?
    Most of the "SNS" guns made it onto the CA Roster in fact.

    How's D.C. re. long arms?
    Exactly like California with the exception of the Harrot decision.

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    • #32
      HondaMasterTech
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 4338

      CA wants a roster to make money.
      Originally posted by Paladin
      (Please skip the lame "two weeks" replies.)
      Originally posted by Ford8N
      If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995

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      • #33
        leelaw
        Junior Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 10445

        Originally posted by hoffmang
        DC modified their roster to be so permissive that we couldn't find a handgun that wasn't on it now. Heck, you can even buy and register a Taurus Judge in DC - which you can't do in CA (for non Roster reasons).

        -Gene
        What about an AR-15 pistol?

        If they need something with a magazine in the pistol grip, then:

        UZI clone?

        MAC clone?

        Have fun with it...

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        • #34
          leelaw
          Junior Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 10445

          Originally posted by HondaMasterTech
          CA wants a roster to make money.
          If the point was making money, then the restrictions would be lessened (or DOJ would petition Congress to write new legislation that would remove the new characteristic requirements) so more would be added to the roster. Get rid of the magazine disconnect and CLI and suddenly everyone wants their guns on the roster again.

          It's not about making money, it's about restricting guns in California.

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          • #35
            383green
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 4328

            Originally posted by leelaw
            It's not about making money, it's about restricting guns in California.
            Agreed, but I'm sure they don't mind making a few bucks in the process.
            They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
            Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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            • #36
              HondaMasterTech
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 4338

              Originally posted by leelaw
              If the point was making money, then the restrictions would be lessened (or DOJ would petition Congress to write new legislation that would remove the new characteristic requirements) so more would be added to the roster. Get rid of the magazine disconnect and CLI and suddenly everyone wants their guns on the roster again.

              It's not about making money, it's about restricting guns in California.
              There are a LOT of guns on the roster which makes the state a TON of money. Though I dont argue that restriction is on "their" minds.
              Originally posted by Paladin
              (Please skip the lame "two weeks" replies.)
              Originally posted by Ford8N
              If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995

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              • #37
                copenhagen269
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 341

                Originally posted by Hans Gruber
                The heat is on!


                Sorry, I had to do it.

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                • #38
                  Dr Rockso
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3701

                  Originally posted by hoffmang
                  DC modified their roster to be so permissive that we couldn't find a handgun that wasn't on it now.
                  Which begs the question: what's the point of the roster if every handgun is rostered?

                  And seriously every handgun? PLR-16, AR-15 pistol, AK pistol, Uzi, Mac, Tec....everything?

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                  • #39
                    7x57
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 5182

                    Originally posted by Dr Rockso
                    Which begs the question: what's the point of the roster if every handgun is rostered?
                    Reinforces the Right to Regulate. Keeps Control. What else is it ever?

                    And seriously every handgun? PLR-16, AR-15 pistol, AK pistol, Uzi, Mac, Tec....everything?
                    It's quite possible we don't want to bring AR and AK pistols and sub-semi-machineguns into court yet. If the judge wets his pants when you bring in exhibit A, you're in trouble.

                    7x57
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                    Originally posted by bulgron
                    I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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                    • #40
                      Foulball
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2827

                      Originally posted by 7x57
                      If the judge wets his pants when you bring in exhibit A, you're in trouble.

                      7x57
                      Hahaha, I find that VERY sig worthy! Thanks 7x57!!!

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                      • #41
                        Dr Rockso
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3701

                        Originally posted by 7x57
                        It's quite possible we don't want to bring AR and AK pistols and sub-semi-machineguns into court yet. If the judge wets his pants when you bring in exhibit A, you're in trouble.
                        Yeah, I understand that. I was just curious if they are actually DC-legal with the modified roster.

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                        • #42
                          7x57
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5182

                          Originally posted by Dr Rockso
                          Yeah, I understand that. I was just curious if they are actually DC-legal with the modified roster.
                          Oh, it's a great question, and nothing would give me more pleasure than for the DC council to have to accept big-bad-scary-assault-baby-killers on their streets. I'd like to know the answer about such pistols myself. I only meant that Gene might possibly not be counting them because it isn't the right time to push on Evil Black non-Rifles yet.

                          7x57
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                          What do you need guns for if you are going to send your children, seven hours a day, 180 days a year to government schools? What do you need the guns for at that point?-- R. C. Sproul, Jr. (unconfirmed)

                          Originally posted by bulgron
                          I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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                          • #43
                            yellowfin
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 8371

                            Any projections on timeline for this? We have a lot of ducks to get in a row in some various states that will march on this news. Or do you think DC will fold again to keep this from becoming precedent? They've gotta be choking on themselves right now.
                            Last edited by yellowfin; 08-07-2009, 8:39 AM.
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                            • #44
                              Aegis
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1684

                              I hope Mr. Gura makes millions in fees and costs from the city on this case and others. The only way these arrogant politicians are going to follow the law is if they keep paying millions of dollars each time they get taken to court when they trample on someones constitutional rights.

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                              • #45
                                Psy Crow
                                Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 124

                                Originally posted by Aegis
                                I hope Mr. Gura makes millions in fees and costs from the city on this case and others.
                                I too hope Mr. Gura is well paid for his services.


                                The only way these arrogant politicians are going to follow the law is if they keep paying have to pay millions of dollars of their own money each time they get taken to court or are thrown out of office when they trample on someones constitutional rights.
                                FTF.

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