Pro Gun Dems backout?

[aileron]

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/article3420.html

Looks like some dems are already waffling.

[Incitatus]

Yet, Democrat gun owners are still buying it...

[Kruzr]

Without an explanation of what H.B. 347 is, it's hard to judge if this is of concern or another sky is falling internet post.

What new restrictions or prohibitions is the bill imposing on Ohio residents?

[paradox]

Which brings us to Senator Goodman and Senator Stivers, Republicans who each accepted NRA and other gun group backing this past fall and then left gun owners at the altar with votes against H.B. 347. Don't come back until you've redeemed yourselves. In the meantime, we'll be recruiting and screening pro-gun candidates who will keep their word and vote the way they said they would while on the campaign trail.

[hoffmang]

H.B. 347 looks like a CCW improvement and local regulation pre-emption bill (mainly target at Cleveland if I remember correctly.)

http://www.peoplesrights.org/articletemplate.asp?id=169

The Governor Vetoed it. The Ohio House over-rode. Now it looks like certain Senators (on both sides of the aisle) are not sticking with their old vote for.

Funny that Ohio might lose its gun rights to Republicans. Kind of like how a Republican Attorney General in California cost all of you more gun rights than any Democrat ever - but since when did facts enter into a religious debate.

-Gene

[CalNRA]

Funny that Ohio might lose its gun rights to Republicans. Kind of like how a Republican Attorney General in California cost all of you more gun rights than any Democrat ever -

which one are we talking about here?

[aileron]

Title should be changed to “Pro gun politicians backout?”

Ok... done, but where I read it, it was fingering a bunch of dems, but your right it wasnt all dems that backed out.

As for the question of what does this do, it stops gun laws from being passed in counties and cities, and makes the gun laws uniform throughout the state. So if your traveling though one city you dont all of a sudden become a felon and then when your through that city your now just a law abiding citizen again, until of course you come to the next city or county where the laws could change again on you.


aileron

[hoffmang]

Dan Lundgren (R) appealed NRA's win against the Robert-Roos Act. If he'd left it alone there wouldn't have been an AW ban in California. Kasler v. Lockyer was originally Kasler v. Lundgren...

-Gene

[mikehaas]

Dan Lundgren (R) appealed NRA's win against the Robert-Roos Act. If he'd left it alone there wouldn't have been an AW ban in California. Kasler v. Lockyer was originally Kasler v. Lundgren...

-Gene

And he CONFISCATED (not just banned) SKS Sporters because he thought it would help him in his '98 bid for guv. (but nothing on earth had that power)

Interesting reading:

http://www.nrawinningteam.com/states/ca4.html

Mike

[Kruzr]

As for the question of what does this do, it stops gun laws from being passed in counties and cities, and makes the gun laws uniform throughout the state. So if your traveling though one city you dont all of a sudden become a felon and then when your through that city your now just a law abiding citizen again, until of course you come to the next city or county where the laws could change again on you.


aileron

If this is the case, it doesn't sound "anti" to me. It sounds like it's in the favor of CCW holders. If Calif. had a law like this, San Francisco would have been out of luck long before courts got involved. What's the downside?

Ohio Legislature Passes Sweeping Firearm Preemption & Concealed Carry Legislation
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 29 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Ohioans For Concealed Carry announced its support today for Ohio Substitute House Bill 347 after the Ohio Senate passed the bill by a 19 to 10 vote and sent it back to the Ohio House for concurrence.

"Finally after nearly three years of Ohio having a concealed carry law, license holders will actually be able to carry a firearm concealed in their motor vehicle," said Jeff Garvas, president of Ohioans For Concealed Carry. "This will end the justifiable fears that law-abiding citizens have of being charged with a crime because a traffic officer decides he didn't like exactly how you were trying to carry your handgun in plain sight to satisfy the vague law."

Ohio is one of few states that allow its local governments to pass firearm-related laws. By enacting statewide preemption of those laws, the State of Ohio shall join the majority of the nation, forty-four states, where all firearm laws will be created by the state legislature and remain consistent statewide. Today, an otherwise law-abiding person can unknowingly drive into a municipality and do something "illegal" that is otherwise legal in any other part of Ohio.

"Statewide firearm preemption is long overdue. Today's patchwork quilt of gun laws could change from various misdemeanors with jail time to "perfectly legal" all in the stretch of a five mile road between municipalities," said OFCC Vice President Bryan Torok. "The unknown legal landmines of owning a firearm are gone. Lawful gun owners will be able to rest assured that the laws that govern our possession, transportation and use of firearms shall be based on a consistent statewide set of laws."

[aileron]

If this is the case, it doesn't sound "anti" to me. It sounds like it's in the favor of CCW holders. If Calif. had a law like this, San Francisco would have been out of luck long before courts got involved. What's the downside?


[/i]

The AB is good, all good. We should copy that thing and make it an AB here.

The problem is the fact that some supposed pro gun dems and pro gun republicans have changed their vote now that their IN office. As opposed to what they said when they were running for re-election or running for office for the first time. Them doing the two step is bad for us all when it comes time to vote pro-gun in the house and senate.

aileron

[Kruzr]

The governor who veto'd it is a Republican.
Politicians don't have any principles other than what will get them elected again........no matter which party they belong to.

[jnojr]

Yet, Democrat gun owners are still buying it...

Like Charlie Brown and the football...

[tacticalcity]