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  • vladbutsky
    In Memoriam
    • Nov 2007
    • 298

    Guns from America fuel Jamaica's gang wars



    This time US is responsible for Jamaica...

    Same calls to search outgoing traffic:
    This complaint — that Americans care only what comes in, not what goes out — echoes that of Mexican authorities, who say cars going from the U.S. into Mexico aren't searched for weapons or cash.
    ... and same scare of .50
    In one of the few Jamaican gun-smuggling cases prosecuted in the U.S., Tawanna Banton, 36, of Florida was convicted of buying a Glock handgun later used in the gang killings of four island police officers. She said her Jamaican boyfriend arranged the purchase, and she was paid $15,000 to buy the handgun and a .50 caliber "Grizzly" rifle with a tripod mount, according to court documents.
    They missed to see the simple truth that enen on piece of land isolated from the rest of the world by ocean and with draconian inti-gun restrictions they still have one of the highest gun crime rates in the world. It seems to me that Jamaica should be our best argument to show that gun cannot does not help to fight crime.
    Last edited by vladbutsky; 06-21-2009, 10:02 AM.
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    Gavin Twosome
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 312

    Next up it's Guns from America fuel Alaskan naitives hunting sprees ?

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      mk19
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 366

      the was my first reaction when i first read the title, OH WHATERVER!
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      • #4
        JTecalo
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 3619

        IIRC US is the cause and source of all gun related crime, riots, coups, etc. that are happening through out the world today.

        The planes, ships, trains and trucks are leaving every hour on the hour to peaceful locations to deliver firearms and foment civil unrest.

        We need an administration that can put a stop to this insanity.

        I call for all CalGunners to unselfishly turn in their firearms in a show of solidarity to stop this craziness.

        I will set up a place to receive these firearms and although I can't pay the 200.00 turn in fees the LE agencies can, I assure you they will be disposed of properly.

        I'm still waiting....

        Jim

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        • #5
          B Strong
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          • Feb 2009
          • 6367

          Back in the 1970's there was a period of time where most of the Rasta gangs refused to take cash for weed, they would only take weapons in trade.

          Once upon a time, Jamaica also had a zero-tolerance mandatory life sentence for possession of any firearm, ammo, or explosives, but I don't know if they even enforce that law now.
          The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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            Legasat
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            • Mar 2009
            • 4151

            Originally posted by JTecalo
            IIRC US is the cause and source of all gun related crime, riots, coups, etc. that are happening through out the world today.

            The planes, ships, trains and trucks are leaving every hour on the hour to peaceful locations to deliver firearms and foment civil unrest.
            I think that is obvious to the most casual observer.

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            • #7
              Greg-Dawg
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              • Oct 2006
              • 7793

              First Mexico, then Jamaica...who else will we take the blame for?

              ...but we do have more guns here. That's why no one wants to mess with us, but take advantage of our guns.

              "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass". Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, 1941

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              • #8
                7x57
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2008
                • 5182

                "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass". Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, 1941
                I like the quote, but we shouldn't rest on the accomplishments of our ancestors.

                I say we go for two rifles behind each blade....

                7x57
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                Originally posted by bulgron
                I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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                  bsim
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 892

                  Writers are generally creative people.
                  Creative people tend to be liberal.
                  Liberal people tend to write whatever dreck that makes "the man" look bad.
                  They also write stuff like this:
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                  • #10
                    yellowfin
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 8371

                    We'll think about stopping sending guns as soon as they stop sending multi colored hats, disgusting haircuts, and college dormroom posters for art majors.
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                    • #11
                      nick
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 19143

                      This is actually "better" that the Mexican BS. Here it's asserted that it's not just the "gun show loophole" that is to blame, but the ability of anyone to purchase a gun, with whatever restrictions already heaped on it, that's the danger to the poor downtrodden overseas. Never mind that the woman was committing a crime doing the straw purchase, the problem is, obviously, that she was able to buy a gun at all. Kind of like the ability to drive makes for a potential mass-murdering accident when one plows into some crowd.
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                      • #12
                        ojisan
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                        • Apr 2008
                        • 11751

                        Tomorrow's Headline:

                        Guns from US responsible for Global Warming!



                        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
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                        • #13
                          7x57
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5182

                          This may well be another good sign. It may be that the Mexican cartel angle simply didn't get the traction hoped for.

                          When our enemies are casting about wildly for an issue, it means the old ones that they've oppressed us with so successfully aren't working.

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                          What do you need guns for if you are going to send your children, seven hours a day, 180 days a year to government schools? What do you need the guns for at that point?-- R. C. Sproul, Jr. (unconfirmed)

                          Originally posted by bulgron
                          I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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                          • #14
                            goober
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4875

                            Originally posted by nick
                            This is actually "better" that the Mexican BS. Here it's asserted that it's not just the "gun show loophole" that is to blame, but the ability of anyone to purchase a gun, with whatever restrictions already heaped on it, that's the danger to the poor downtrodden overseas. Never mind that the woman was committing a crime doing the straw purchase, the problem is, obviously, that she was able to buy a gun at all. Kind of like the ability to drive makes for a potential mass-murdering accident when one plows into some crowd.
                            +1
                            while the whole "blame U.S. for gun crime in <country>" model is FAIL, at least this article focuses more on customs & shipping inspection/regulation rather than tighter gun "control" here in the U.S.A.
                            such tactics are really the only ones that make sense if something is to be done about some supposed problem w/ U.S. guns getting into criminal's hands in foreign countries.
                            if you really think we should care, that is...

                            anyway it could be a much worse, more slanted article.
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                              nick
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              Originally posted by 7x57
                              This may well be another good sign. It may be that the Mexican cartel angle simply didn't get the traction hoped for.

                              When our enemies are casting about wildly for an issue, it means the old ones that they've oppressed us with so successfully aren't working.

                              7x57
                              UNless they go for "totality of circumstances". "See, guns from the US wreak havoc all over the world. Mexico, Jamaica, ..., when will this stop???"

                              I can just picture the greatest orator of our time (and I don't mean Barack Obama), Dianne Feinstein, pushing this speech.
                              Last edited by nick; 06-21-2009, 3:26 PM.
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