Legal way of transporting hand gun.

[nzaw4]

Hey guys,

was reading a thead on how to transport a gun while on a motor cycle.
which is this thread : http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=192145


One of the comments state that they can put the hand gun in a locked saddle bag, with a full mags right next to it.

Does this fall into the same catagory in cars?
I was always told even a loaded mag that is not in the gun,is some what considered a loaded firearm.

Atleast i think?

Sorry for the noob questions.

[Decoligny]

Hey guys,

was reading a thead on how to transport a gun while on a motor cycle.
which is this thread : http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=192145


One of the comments state that they can put the hand gun in a locked saddle bag, with a full mags right next to it.

Does this fall into the same catagory in cars?
I was always told even a loaded mag that is not in the gun,is some what considered a loaded firearm.

Atleast i think?

Sorry for the noob questions.

You may have been told that, but it is wrong. Take a look at the "Is It Loaded?" pamphlet in the link in my signature. This explains the Penal Codes and it also addresses case law.

[bigcalidave]

Better off in a holster wide open (unloaded) Otherwise, in a locked container unloaded.

[gunsmith]

nope

Better off in a holster wide open (unloaded) Otherwise, in a locked container unloaded.

you have to know where all the school zones are, one on every other block in SF it seems like.

until we win big, I aint open carrying or telling others to

[CA_SHARPSHOOTER]

so would 2 loaded mags detached from the gun in the same case as the gun constitute as loaded if the case was l;ocked?

[Glock22Fan]

so would 2 loaded mags detached from the gun in the same case as the gun constitute as loaded if the case was l;ocked?

Having two loaded mags in the same locked case as an unloaded firearm is perfectly legal (according to People v. Clark) as long as neither mag is in the mag well (it might also be advisable to have an empty mag in the mag well).

It would be advisable for you to know the law well enough to argue with cops (and ADA's) who know the law less well than you, and are prepared to take the consequences of their lack of knowledge in terms of the hassle they may give you.

Therefore I personally never do this. Your mileage may vary.

In the interests of full disclosure, this advice is probably only correct if you are NOT engaged in illegal or gang activities at the time.

[Librarian]

so would 2 loaded mags detached from the gun in the same case as the gun constitute as loaded if the case was l;ocked?

Glock22fan answered your real question, but including "if the case was locked?" suggests you are confusing two different problems.

'Ammunition' and 'locked' are not related.

PC 12025 is the law prohibiting concealed carry without CCW, and PC12026.1 and .2 are exceptions from 12025, telling you to use the locked case.

PC 12031 is the law about loaded guns in public. It's true that in addition to in the locked case the gun must also be unloaded, and having magazines with cartridges in them in the same case with the gun does not make the gun loaded - whether or not the case is locked.