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  • otteray
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 3246

    Reloading w/ condor safe bullets: verboten?

    So I bought some expensive 45-70 Barnes bullets to reload for pig hunting in the condor zone.
    Now, someone said that I cannot use reloads; but must use only those factory rounds blessed by the anti-hunters and certified by F&G.
    Since this is the Twilight Zone state we live in, will a Rod Serling please, step forward and tell me what is real?
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    sorensen440
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2007
    • 8611

    Thats bull you can use lead free reloads
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20793

      yea aren't frangables non lead too

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        Fjold
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 22809

        The bullets are certified by F&G
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          7x57
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2008
          • 5182

          Originally posted by sorensen440
          Thats bull you can use lead free reloads
          Yeah, as long as the bullets themselves are blessed by the all-wise state you're good. What you can't do is use non-lead bullets the state didn't approve, because that Is Not Allowed.

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          I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Heres the list of allowable Barnes bullets, directly from F&G.


            Jack



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            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              santacruzpaul
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 122

              I called DFG in Monterey

              I have heard from non official sources that only factory ammo was approved.
              I called DFG in Monterey, and the chick told me it was all good using reloaded ammo with Barnes Copper in sidearms and rifles,
              She also told me I could carry a sidearm with lead ammo, while legally upland game hunting with a shotgun using lead shot,
              But, I would like to get the info from a warden,
              Paul
              Last edited by santacruzpaul; 05-27-2009, 7:24 PM.
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                Solidmch
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 1325

                Originally posted by sorensen440
                Thats bull you can use lead free reloads
                I do it all the time! So does my dad and one of the Land Managers in the area.
                Please spay or neuter your liberals.

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                  7x57
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5182

                  Originally posted by santacruzpaul
                  I called DFG in Monterey, and the chick told me it was all good using reloaded ammo with Barnes Copper in sidearms and rifles,
                  She also told me I could carry a sidearm with lead ammo, while legally upland game hunting with a shotgun using lead shot,
                  But, I would like to get the info from a warden,
                  Paul
                  That advice worries me. I gather one of the most common violations is having a sidearm with normal ammo. AFAIK it doesn't matter how insane the weapon/game combination; if you have it, you're treated as though you're hunting with it.

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                  What do you need guns for if you are going to send your children, seven hours a day, 180 days a year to government schools? What do you need the guns for at that point?-- R. C. Sproul, Jr. (unconfirmed)

                  Originally posted by bulgron
                  I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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                    santacruzpaul
                    Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 122

                    Originally posted by 7x57
                    That advice worries me. I gather one of the most common violations is having a sidearm with normal ammo. AFAIK it doesn't matter how insane the weapon/game combination; if you have it, you're treated as though you're hunting with it.

                    7x57
                    I explained to her that i would also be hunting other game animals, such as cottontails, and tree squirrels in season as well as upland game,
                    again, i would like to hear it offically.
                    Paul
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                    • #11
                      .454
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3839

                      Originally posted by santacruzpaul
                      again, i would like to hear it offically.
                      Paul
                      Only "approved factory loaded" is as big of a FUD as the "they will ban body armor in two weeks" B.S. but... since none of us here on CG is a game warden, I guess you'll need to call DFG again and ask another genius working the phones there.
                      Oh, and speaking of geniuses ...I hope you wrote down the name of the DFG representative who told you that a personal defense handgun loaded with lead ammo when hunting in the Condor Area is OK, because it is NOT.
                      Last edited by .454; 05-27-2009, 9:58 PM.

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                        Spyder
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 16877

                        Originally posted by santacruzpaul
                        I have heard from non official sources that only factory ammo was approved.
                        I called DFG in Monterey, and the chick told me it was all good using reloaded ammo with Barnes Copper in sidearms and rifles,
                        She also told me I could carry a sidearm with lead ammo, while legally upland game hunting with a shotgun using lead shot,
                        But, I would like to get the info from a warden,
                        Paul
                        NOT ok. Letter of the law, even if you've got a lead round in your pocket that you're not even carrying a gun that is chambered for, it is citable.

                        Don't do it. =]

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                        • #13
                          wellerjohn
                          Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 393

                          What about a shotshell for snakes? Still have not found out if it's legal.

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                            otteray
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 3246

                            Originally posted by Spyder
                            NOT ok. Letter of the law, even if you've got a lead round in your pocket that you're not even carrying a gun that is chambered for, it is citable.


                            Don't do it. =]
                            The possession of a projectile containing
                            lead in excess of the amount allowed in subsection
                            353(h) without possessing a firearm capable of
                            firing the projectile is not a violation of this section
                            Last edited by otteray; 05-28-2009, 6:40 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Whiskey84
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1124

                              won't someone please think of the condors and the children?

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                              you can't argue logic with an anti....it's like trying to get an apple tree to grow bicycles

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