Shipping a few lowers, do I need to declare them as firearms?

[JPglee1]

If however you SELL a firearm to a NON-FFL you must take that weapon to an FFL and have it shipped to the OTHER guy's FFL. You cannot simply place it in the mail and ship it to him.

No, you can send the gun directly to HIS FFL with out needing an FFL to actually send it. You just can't send directly to a non-licensee, unless its a Pre-1899 firearm, then its not a firearm at all but an antique


JP

[ldivinag]

Dumb question, but can you ship firearms via FedEx? Getting ready to ship my DCI receivers and want to make sure I do it correctly?

i shipped an unbuilt serbu .50 bmg receiver (okay, it was more of a tube with some serial numbers on it...) on fed ex.

actually, i went to a kinky's/fed ex store and they told me only their hub does firearm shipping. not too bad as it was only 10 minutes away (union city hub) and i got there like 10 minutes before they closed.

they took care of it. all they asked was no ammo... no biggie. shipped overnight though...

[SemiAutoSam]

There is an 50 year old long gun exemption. where you can ship directly to a non FFL with a common carrier or USPS.

If however you SELL a firearm to a NON-FFL you must take that weapon to an FFL and have it shipped to the OTHER guy's FFL. You cannot simply place it in the mail and ship it to him.

[tiki]

Yes, and a "Common Carrier" (FedEx, UPS, DHL) is the only way to ship a handgun. You still have to declare it, but make sure that you ship it with plenty of insurance on them so that in case they "disappear", that you can get your money back. You will have to ship them overnight, which is a little spendy, but it reduces the time that it is in their system, and reduces the chance that they might "disappear".

Hmmm, bought for $150, insured for $1000 and the package disappears?
Sounds like a good deal to me.

[M14Gunman]

Hmmm, bought for $150, insured for $1000 and the package disappears?
Sounds like a good deal to me.

I have many firearms that have no appreciable monitary value.... they can never be replaced and I would not take $5000 dollars for them despite their official monitary value.

[TonyNorCal]

[Mssr. Eleganté]

It's already been mentioned that Federal law only requires you to notify the common carrier that a package contains a firearm if you are shipping to an unlicensed person. It also should be mentioned that this only applies to interstate shipments.

So if you are shipping a gun to yourself in another state for a hunting trip or something, Federal law requires you to notify the carrier because the gun is not going to an FFL and it is travelling across state lines.

If you are shipping a gun to an unlicensed person within California, Federal law does not require you to notify the carrier since the gun is not crossing state lines.

[EOD Guy]

It's already been mentioned that Federal law only requires you to notify the common carrier that a package contains a firearm if you are shipping to an unlicensed person. It also should be mentioned that this only applies to interstate shipments.

So if you are shipping a gun to yourself in another state for a hunting trip or something, Federal law requires you to notify the carrier because the gun is not going to an FFL and it is travelling across state lines.

If you are shipping a gun to an unlicensed person within California, Federal law does not require you to notify the carrier since the gun is not crossing state lines.

You might not know. For instance, if you ship FedEx from San Francisco to Los Angeles, the package may be routed through the FedEx hub in Memphis. That would be interstate commerce even though the shipper and recipient are in the same state.

[Smokeybehr]

You might not know. For instance, if you ship FedEx from San Francisco to Los Angeles, the package may be routed through the FedEx hub in Memphis. That would be interstate commerce even though the shipper and recipient are in the same state.

Every overnight FexEx package goes through Murfreesboro, TN. Unfortunately, it's interstate commerce. FedEx Ground and UPS Ground are the ones that are directly routed from one location to another via their regional hubs.

[Yute]

Hmm ok, so Federal law says you don't have to declare if sending to a FFl, but what about company policy?

I always thought it was UPS and Fedex's policy that you had to declare you were shipping a weapon? Or am I going crazy?

[TonyNorCal]

Hmm ok, so Federal law says you don't have to declare if sending to a FFl, but what about company policy?

I always thought it was UPS and Fedex's policy that you had to declare you were shipping a weapon? Or am I going crazy?

You're not crazy. It is company policy for Fed-Ex and UPS. So that's between you and them. No federal/law enforcement agency is involved.

[mltrading]

i shipped an unbuilt serbu .50 bmg receiver (okay, it was more of a tube with some serial numbers on it...) on fed ex.

actually, i went to a kinky's/fed ex store and they told me only their hub does firearm shipping. not too bad as it was only 10 minutes away (union city hub) and i got there like 10 minutes before they closed.

they took care of it. all they asked was no ammo... no biggie. shipped overnight though...

If the receiver has not been fully machined (say 80% or less) yet, it is NOT a firearm. It's just a piece of metal.

I love kinky......

[Yute]

Thanks Tony, glad to see I'm still semi sane! So I guess if you don't declare your weapon and its going to a ffl, no laws will be broken, but if the shipping company loses your package and you didn't tell them there was a weapon in it then you might not get your money back...