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CRPA ALERT 09/09/19: AB 61 & 879 PASS ASSEMBLY FLOOR, MOVE ON TO GOVERNOR’S DESK

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  • readysetgo
    CGSSA Coordinator
    • Aug 2011
    • 8689

    CRPA ALERT 09/09/19: AB 61 & 879 PASS ASSEMBLY FLOOR, MOVE ON TO GOVERNOR’S DESK



    Contact:



    Governor Gavin Newsom
    1303 10th Street, Suite 1173
    Sacramento, CA 95814
    Phone: (916) 445-2841
    Fax: (916) 558-3160


    Calguns.net discussion threads on each of these bills are here:

    2019 AB 61 Ting - Gun violence restraining orders.

    AB 879, Gipson, 2019 - 'firearm precursor parts'
    Last edited by readysetgo; 09-13-2019, 12:45 PM.
    Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

  • #2
    God Bless America
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2014
    • 5163

    "these scrupulous bills"?

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    • #3
      Helmut
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2018
      • 907

      Yeah...no. Be prepared for these to become law.

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      • #4
        foreppin916
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 1307

        Gavin vetoing gun control? LOL. Will call tomorrow and do my part. But expect these to become law asap.
        "Ya dude just bought my 67th gun today"......sigpic

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        • #5
          Californio
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2006
          • 4169

          Totalitarian Marxists with EuroTrash Characteristics.

          They own academia, law schools, the courts in the coastal states and unless the SCOTUS grows a pair all hope of salvaging this Republic is lost. So Very Sad - my forebears spilled their blood for a dream that has been destroyed in the last 75 years, I guess Stalin really won after all.

          Greasy Gavin is not going to listen for one millisecond.
          "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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          • #6
            jcwatchdog
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 2571

            Let them push, at this point the only hope is they push too much.

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            • #7
              Hornman
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 30

              Originally posted by jcwatchdog
              Let them push, at this point the only hope is they push too much.
              Unfortunately I think you are right.

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              • #8
                BeAuMaN
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2015
                • 1193

                For those calling concerning the expansion of GVROs (AB-61), I'd emphasize that the ACLU has opposed the bill since its inception and continues to oppose it. From the most recent Assembly Floor Analysis from 9/5:


                According to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), ''The ACLU of California does not oppose gun control measures that regulate the acquisition or use of guns – so long as those regulations contribute to public safety and do not raise civil liberties issues. Additionally, we do not oppose laws that authorize protective orders to remove guns from people who pose a risk to themselves or others, provided there are nondiscriminatory criteria for defining people as dangerous, and a fair process for those affected to object and be heard by a court.

                ''AB 61, however, poses a significant threat to civil liberties by expanding the authorization to seek ex parte orders, with all the ensuing consequences, without an opportunity for the person to be heard or contest the matter.

                ''The statutory scheme creating the Gun Violence Restraining Order (Penal Code Sections 18100-18205) was established in 2014 (AB 1014, Skinner). Under this scheme a family member, or any law enforcement officer, who has reason to believe a person owns a gun and poses a significant danger to themselves or others, may petition the court for an ex parte order to prohibit the subject from possessing a gun for up to 21 days, at which time a hearing is held to determine whether to extend the order for to one year.

                ''An ex parte order means the person subject to the restraining order is not informed of the court proceeding and therefore has no opportunity to contest the allegations. We support the efforts to prevent gun violence, but we must balance that important goal with protection of civil liberties so we do not sacrifice one in an attempt to accomplish the other. We believe AB 1014 was crafted in order to properly strike that balance. By expanding the parties that could apply for such an ex parte restraining order to include all the parties listed above, many of whom lack the relationship or skills required to make an appropriate assessment, AB 61 upsets that balance and creates significant potential for civil rights violations.''
                ACLU doesn't normally oppose gun control laws, however when they see other civil rights endangered they will oppose them, and I'd think that the mention of ACLU opposing it would carry more weight, and at least give Newsom an excusable reason to veto the law in the eyes of his voting base.
                Last edited by BeAuMaN; 09-09-2019, 9:13 PM.

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                • #9
                  mshill
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 4421

                  Originally posted by BeAuMaN
                  For those calling concerning the expansion of GVROs (AB-61), I'd emphasize that the ACLU has opposed the bill since its inception and continues to oppose it. From the most recent Assembly Floor Analysis from 9/5:




                  ACLU doesn't normally oppose gun control laws, however when they see other civil rights endangered they will oppose them, and I'd think that the mention of ACLU opposing it would carry more weight, and at least give Newsom an excusable reason to veto the law in the eyes of his voting base.
                  Yeah, but will the UCLU file a lawsuit after Newscum signs it? I highly doubt it.
                  The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                  • #10
                    sfpcservice
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1879

                    I see lawsuits filed before Gavin's signature is dry.... Seems like the only people doing well in the "gun debate" are the lawyers.
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                    John 14:6

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                    • #11
                      USMCmatt
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 803

                      Oh for ****s sake...so a grip would need a background check?
                      Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
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                      • #12
                        deebix
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 737

                        ITS OK GUYS! JUST FOLLOW THE LAW RIGHT?

                        I laugh at how anyone is surprised. Wait until they demand a public website of all gun owners in the state, because "OUR RIGHT TO SAFETY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR LITERAL RIGHTS."

                        God damn this state and government into the hell.

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                        • #13
                          tehDiceman
                          Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 109

                          Originally posted by USMCmatt
                          Oh for ****s sake...so a grip would need a background check?
                          Pretty sure it's a lot less restrictive than that. You should read the synopsis of what is included, you might be surprised.
                          Last edited by tehDiceman; 09-10-2019, 12:42 PM. Reason: I'm not supporting this bill, but most items aren't named in the bill.

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                          • #14
                            BeAuMaN
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 1193

                            Originally posted by mshill
                            Yeah, but will the UCLU file a lawsuit after Newscum signs it? I highly doubt it.
                            Mainly its a talking point when you call in. Not sure if they would. If crpa filed they'd probably write an amicus. I imagine they'd wait for the right case to come along for someone who was charged by a school employee or coworker or whatever before filing a lawsuit.

                            Though I could totally be wrong.

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                            • #15
                              prkprisoner
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 361

                              Pre-cursor parts1) An unfinished receiver, including both a single part receiver and a multiple part receiver, such as a receiver in an AR-10- or AR-15-style firearm. An unfinished receiver includes a receiver tube, a molded or shaped polymer frame or receiver, a metallic casting, a metallic forging, and a receiver flat, such as a Kalashnikov-style weapons system, Kalashnikov-style receiver channel, or a Browning-style receiver side plate.
                              (2) An unfinished handgun frame.

                              So they are trying to regulate chunks of metal now.

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